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Offline wpr  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:26:46 PM(UTC)
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Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is one new face in the Green Bay Packers' secondary. Does the safety figure to start? Gregg Rosenthal opines where the rookie ball hawk and his teammates fit in.


Green Bay Packers Projected 2014 Starters
Offense
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Eddie Lacy
WR1 Jordy Nelson
WR2 Randall Cobb
WR3 Jarrett Boykin / Davante Adams
TE Andrew Quarless
LT David Bakhtiari
LG Josh Sitton
C JC Tretter
RG T.J. Lang
RT Bryan Bulaga

Defense

DE Datone Jones
NT B.J. Raji
DE Mike Daniels
OLB Clay Matthews
ILB A.J. Hawk / Brad Jones
OLB Julius Peppers
CB1 Sam Shields
CB2 Tramon Williams
CB3 Casey Hayward
SS Morgan Burnett
FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix


Interesting they are using 3 WR and 3 CB. It makes sense but you don't see most media sources do that.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:43:09 PM(UTC)
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I can't remember the last time I was this excited about our team.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:04:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
Interesting they are using 3 WR and 3 CB. It makes sense but you don't see most media sources do that.


I remember Mike saying in an interview about how The D is usually in their base D only about 24% of the plays, could be why the article listed 3cb's.

When healthy there are so many looks the D can give, let's hope 2014 will be a year The Packers get to use them all.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:58:21 PM(UTC)
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I'll go out on a limb and say Sherrod beats out Bakhtiari.

I know, I'm radical.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:15:26 PM(UTC)
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I like the projection as written. I hope Nerd is right about Sherrod, but that's a long shot.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:35:49 PM(UTC)
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My random guess of Green Bay Packers Projected 2014 Starters, at least for the start of the season.

Offense
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Eddie Lacy
WR1 Jordy Nelson
WR2 Randall Cobb
WR3 Jarrett Boykin / Davante Adams
TE Andrew Quarless / Brandon Bostick
LT David Bakhtiari
LG Josh Sitton
C JC Tretter
RG T.J. Lang
RT Bryan Bulaga

Defense
DE Mike Neal
NT B.J. Raji
DE Mike Daniels
OLB Clay Matthews
ILB A.J. Hawk
OLB Nick Perry / Julius Peppers
CB1 Sam Shields
CB2 Tramon Williams
CB3 Casey Hayward / Micah Hyde
SS Micah Hyde / Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
FS Morgan Burnett

~ TE: Mike McCarthy called Brandon Bostick the Packers best blocking TE over the offseason, and he moves extremely well for a TE (he was a college WR) and Packers seeming to be bringing in more of the TE/WR combos, so I think they're moving that way. I thought about making him the sole starter but he also showed problems with what seemed to be alligator arms / drops when he had to go over the middle or they got in the red zone so I felt like Quarless should be left up there still.

~ DE: From the way Mike McCarthy has talked about Mike Neal it sounds like they want him as a DL first and OLB second (and Peppers as an OLB first and DL second)... also with what sounds like a new aggressive one gap system, that would favor Daniels, Neal and Jones. But Neal is a bit more physical than Jones, and they still have to stop the run on the way to the QB, so I'm thinking Neal first, Jones as the pass rush specialist on 3rd down and anything and long.

~ OLB: Perry flashed a TON of potential when playing ROLB... the problem... they barely played him there and had him playing LOLB a lot. I think they need to see what Perry can do from ROLB, Matthews has already shown he can play from both side. I think we'll see Perry and Peppers rotate and maybe some of both of them with Matthews getting a breather on the sideline and/or maybe Matthews rushing up the middle from ILB?

~ CB: Coverage wise Hayward was better, but overall being a complete player (ie, being physical, tackling in the run game, blitzing, etc) Hyde might of been just as good or better and more of a threat to blitz off that edge and get into the backfield and make a tackle. Having Hyde at the slot gives the play caller a lot more options.

~ FS: Based on the past, Packers always seem to put a vet/guy they trust most at FS until the other person proves themselves. I'm sure once they become comfortable they have the FS and SS switching up some trying to confuse the offenses.

~ SS: Mike McCarthy said they wanted to get Hyde on the field more, anyway they can. It sounded like that meant Hyde to S at least before they drafted Ha Ha. Also I've heard the NFL is moving more and more towards 3 Safety nickel packages and teaching Hyde safety, he could line up and be either and make it harder on offenses. (and Capers ran a 3 Safety package defense while he was head coach with the Texans). And that would mean in case of an injury Hyde could hopefully back-up all the DB spots, or start at them if say a rookie is adjusting to the NFL.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:34:59 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
I remember Mike saying in an interview about how The D is usually in their base D only about 24% of the plays, could be why the article listed 3cb's.

When healthy there are so many looks the D can give, let's hope 2014 will be a year The Packers get to use them all.


I know that but national media usually takes the easy way out and uses either a 4-3-4 or a 3-4-4 for defense. I skimmed through the other teams and Detroit has 2 WR and 2 TE. Other teams have adjustments for their team. (I forget who it was maybe the Bears had a 4-2-5) I was impressed that he went through the extra effort to make a few adjustments.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:04:46 AM(UTC)
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You jokers never stay on my topics, so screw you!!! I'm doing a depth chart :P



Quarterback
  1. Aaron Rodgers
  2. Matt Flynn


Running Back
  1. Eddie Lacy
  2. James Starks
  3. DuJuan Harris
  4. John Kuhn


Wide Receiver
  1. Jordy Nelson
  2. Randall Cobb
  3. Jarrett Boykin
  4. Davante Adams
  5. Jared Abbrederis
  6. Jeff Janis


Tight End
  1. Jermichael Finley
  2. Andrew Quarless
  3. Richard Rodgers
  4. Colt Lyerla



Tackle
  1. Bryan Bulaga
  2. David Bakhtiari
  3. Aaron Adams
  4. Derek Sherrod


Guard
  1. Josh Sitton
  2. T.J. Lang
  3. Andrew Tiller
  4. Lane Taylor



Center
  1. J.C. Tretter
  2. Corey Linsley



Defensive Line
  1. Mike Daniels
  2. B.J. Raji
  3. Datone Jones
  4. Johnny Jolly
  5. Jerel Worthy
  6. Mike Neal
  7. Josh Boyd
  8. Khyri Thorton


Linebackers
  1. Clay Matthews III
  2. Julius Peppers
  3. Nick Perry
  4. A.J. Hawk
  5. Brad Jones
  6. Adrian Hubbard
  7. Andy Mulumba
  8. Jamari Lattimore



Cornerbacks
  1. Sam Shields
  2. Tramon Williams
  3. Casey Hayward
  4. Demetri Goodson
  5. Jarrett Bush



Safeties
  1. Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix
  2. Morgan Burnett
  3. Micah Hyde
  4. Sean Richardson



Kicker
  1. Mason Crosby


Punter
  1. Tim Masthay
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:05:28 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
I can't remember the last time I was this excited about our team.


I can help. Exactly one year ago.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:51:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
You jokers never stay on my topics, so screw you!!! I'm doing a depth chart :P



Quarterback
  1. Aaron Rodgers
  2. Matt Flynn


Running Back
  1. Eddie Lacy
  2. James Starks
  3. DuJuan Harris
  4. John Kuhn


Wide Receiver
  1. Jordy Nelson
  2. Randall Cobb
  3. Jarrett Boykin
  4. Davante Adams
  5. Jared Abbrederis
  6. Jeff Janis


Tight End
  1. Jermichael Finley
  2. Andrew Quarless
  3. Richard Rodgers
  4. Colt Lyerla



Tackle
  1. Bryan Bulaga
  2. David Bakhtiari
  3. Aaron Adams
  4. Derek Sherrod


Guard
  1. Josh Sitton
  2. T.J. Lang
  3. Andrew Tiller
  4. Lane Taylor



Center
  1. J.C. Tretter
  2. Corey Linsley



Defensive Line
  1. Mike Daniels
  2. B.J. Raji
  3. Datone Jones
  4. Johnny Jolly
  5. Jerel Worthy
  6. Mike Neal
  7. Josh Boyd
  8. Khyri Thorton


Linebackers
  1. Clay Matthews III
  2. Julius Peppers
  3. Nick Perry
  4. A.J. Hawk
  5. Brad Jones
  6. Adrian Hubbard
  7. Andy Mulumba
  8. Jamari Lattimore



Cornerbacks
  1. Sam Shields
  2. Tramon Williams
  3. Casey Hayward
  4. Demetri Goodson
  5. Jarrett Bush



Safeties
  1. Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix
  2. Morgan Burnett
  3. Micah Hyde
  4. Sean Richardson



Kicker
  1. Mason Crosby


Punter
  1. Tim Masthay



Zero.. Did Johnathan Franklin die?

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:13:55 AM(UTC)
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Zero.. Did Johnathan Franklin die?



Depending on the severity of his neck injury his football career may have died.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:59:42 AM(UTC)
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Depending on the severity of his neck injury his football career may have died.


He should be fine.. like him to contribute this year.

From Rotoworld:

"Franklin went down in Week 12, but avoided surgery. Coach Mike McCarthy was evasive on Franklin's status Tuesday, which is curious, but not altogether worrisome. As of now, there's no reason to believe Franklin won't be ready for camp. Franklin is a firm third on the depth chart after the Packers re-signed James Starks."

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Offline Wade  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:59:38 PM(UTC)
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I was going to pick this apart, but apart from thinking FInley won't be back and the fourth TE will be someone as yet unidentified, and prefering Francois to Jones, I can't really disagree with anything.

This is after all, what Ted has to work with right now.

Annoyingly.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
You jokers never stay on my topics, so screw you!!! I'm doing a depth chart :P



Quarterback
  1. Aaron Rodgers
  2. Matt Flynn


Running Back
  1. Eddie Lacy
  2. James Starks
  3. DuJuan Harris
  4. John Kuhn


Wide Receiver
  1. Jordy Nelson
  2. Randall Cobb
  3. Jarrett Boykin
  4. Davante Adams
  5. Jared Abbrederis
  6. Jeff Janis


Tight End
  1. Jermichael Finley
  2. Andrew Quarless
  3. Richard Rodgers
  4. Colt Lyerla



Tackle
  1. Bryan Bulaga
  2. David Bakhtiari
  3. Aaron Adams
  4. Derek Sherrod


Guard
  1. Josh Sitton
  2. T.J. Lang
  3. Andrew Tiller
  4. Lane Taylor



Center
  1. J.C. Tretter
  2. Corey Linsley



Defensive Line
  1. Mike Daniels
  2. B.J. Raji
  3. Datone Jones
  4. Johnny Jolly
  5. Jerel Worthy
  6. Mike Neal
  7. Josh Boyd
  8. Khyri Thorton


Linebackers
  1. Clay Matthews III
  2. Julius Peppers
  3. Nick Perry
  4. A.J. Hawk
  5. Brad Jones
  6. Adrian Hubbard
  7. Andy Mulumba
  8. Jamari Lattimore



Cornerbacks
  1. Sam Shields
  2. Tramon Williams
  3. Casey Hayward
  4. Demetri Goodson
  5. Jarrett Bush



Safeties
  1. Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix
  2. Morgan Burnett
  3. Micah Hyde
  4. Sean Richardson



Kicker
  1. Mason Crosby


Punter
  1. Tim Masthay


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#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:22:58 PM(UTC)
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:24:16 PM(UTC)
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I don't think that Peppers or Daniels will necessarily be "starters" according to the base defense chart though they will get plenty of snaps along with Neal.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:33:45 PM(UTC)
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Middle Finger

Qb-2 Rodgers, Flynn

Rb-3 Lacy, Starks, Franklin

Fb-1 Kuhn

Wr-5 Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Abbrederis

Te-5 Quarless, Taylor, Bostic, Stoneburner, Lyerla

Ot-3 Bahktari, Bulaga, Sherrod

Og-3 Lang, Sitton

T/G/C-1 Barclay

C-2 Linsley, Tretter,……………………………………………………………….……24

ST-3 Crosby, Goode, Masthay……………………………………………………...03


Cb-5 Williams, Shields, Hayward, Hyde, Bush

S-3 Burnette, Richardson, Clinton-Dix

Olb-4 Mathews, Perry, Bradford, Hubbard

Ilb-4 Hawk, Jones, Lattimore, Barrington

De/Lb-2 Neal, Peppers

De-4 Jones, Boyd, Worthy, Thornton

Dt-3 Raji, Daniels, Guion......... ……………………………………………………26

PS-8 Rettig QB, Neal RB, Janis WR, Rodgers TE,
Adams OT, Lane OG, Goodson CB, Doughty OLB........................08

Some tough cuts coming, and of course, that I word will come into effect to a degree that will create changes.

Harris(rb), Tolzien(qb) and Rodgers(TE) are 3 skill player That I hate to see not make the roster and would not be surprised if they take someones spot.

Adams, Tiller and Lane are 3 O-lineman who will have a shot if Sherrod doesn't work out.

House, Banjo, Mulumba, and Palmer all will be fighting for a spot, and I would have no problem if they made the final 53.

I still think Raji and Guion better take this Training Camp very serious or they may find themselves looking for a job in the end.

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#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:38:11 PM(UTC)
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Rodgers is not making it to the PS if he gets cut though I have no idea on earth what you've seen from Stoneburner to want to keep him over Rodgers. All Stoneburner ever did with his limited playing time last year was screw up.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:49:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Rodgers is not making it to the PS if he gets cut though I have no idea on earth what you've seen from Stoneburner to want to keep him over Rodgers. All Stoneburner ever did with his limited playing time last year was screw up.


Maybe you read over this.

"Harris(rb), Tolzien(qb) and Rodgers(TE) are 3 skill players That I hate to see not make the roster and would not be surprised if they take someones spot."

I don't see anything in anyone at this point in the season, good or bad, let's let them play a little ball 1st.

Rodgers, right now is a project that Ted took in the 3rd round, he may turn out to be great, but at this point it is a real uknown.

Stoneburner was PS player that got promoted due to injuries, nobody knows what he will be like this year.

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:04:32 PM(UTC)
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You can't say we don't know anything about them we do know things. We know Ted (the guy who decides who makes the team) thinks Rodgers was good enough to use a precious 3rd round pick on him. We also know Stoneburner didn't initially make the team last year and couldn't get any snaps on offense even after 2 TEs went down and has never done anything to show he should be expected to make the roster over a rookie 3rd rounder.

I saw you put your little qualifier in there but there still has to be some reason you put Stoneburner, Taylor and Bostick over Rodgers so what is it? Did you just use a dartboard to make the picks? You can't just say you don't see anything in anyone at this point and then say you think Jake Stoneburner is going to make the team over Rich Rod, that doesn't make sense. You've obviously seen something in someone to come to that decision.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:13:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
You can't say we don't know anything about them we do know things. We know Ted (the guy who decides who makes the team) thinks Rodgers was good enough to use a precious 3rd round pick on him. We also know Stoneburner didn't initially make the team last year and couldn't get any snaps on offense even after 2 TEs went down and has never done anything to show he should be expected to make the roster over a rookie 3rd rounder.

I saw you put your little qualifier in there but there still has to be some reason you put Stoneburner, Taylor and Bostick over Rodgers so what is it? Did you just use a dartboard to make the picks? You can't just say you don't see anything in anyone at this point and then say you think Jake Stoneburner is going to make the team over Rich Rod, that doesn't make sense. You've obviously seen something in someone to come to that decision.


Because they were on the roster last year.

At this point I'm going to give guys, even with 1 year experience, the nod over any rookie.

Especially if Ted and Mike continue their trend of keeping at least 5 TE's on the team.

You know what, I'm deleting the post, this dumbass arguing just isn't worth my time.

You all carry on.
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#21 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:23:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
Because they were on the roster last year.

At this point I'm going to give guys, even with 1 year experience, the nod over any rookie.

Especially if Ted and Mike continue their trend of keeping at least 5 TE's on the team.

You know what, I'm deleting the post, this dumbass arguing just isn't worth my time.

You all carry on.


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#22 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:35:34 PM(UTC)
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There is no trend of keeping 5 TEs. As far as I can remember we've only had 5 TEs on our initial 53 man roster 1 time.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:54:06 PM(UTC)
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There is no trend of keeping 5 TEs. As far as I can remember we've only had 5 TEs on our initial 53 man roster 1 time.


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#24 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:06:47 PM(UTC)
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IMO, the TE position will fall out this way:

1. Quarless.
2. Lyerla.
3. Player not currently in GB.
4. Rodgers.

Bostick, Taylor, and Stoneburner have shown themselves to be just guys. If I was keeping one, I'd keep Taylor for special teams.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:06:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
IMO, the TE position will fall out this way:

1. Quarless.
2. Lyerla.
3. Player not currently in GB.
4. Rodgers.

Bostick, Taylor, and Stoneburner have shown themselves to be just guys. If I was keeping one, I'd keep Taylor for special teams.


Yep. Stick Taylor on your list.

Done. Next position.
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