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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 11:49:28 AM(UTC)
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Perhaps the biggest concern is about Franklin, the fourth-round pick from UCLA who finished his rookie season last year on injured reserve following a neck injury. The Packers are worried that Franklin's neck injury might be career-threatening. According to two people with knowledge of his situation, the Packers are putting Franklin through more tests to determine whether it's safe for him to continue playing.


Sucks man, he's the real deal imo.

This staff needs to get down with reality when it comes to "disc bulges." Don't panic, just get rid of it.



Edit by Zero. This was on the news page 46 minutes ago. 16 minutes earlier than your post. Just a friendly reminder is all. Face. Palm.

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GREEN BAY, Wis. -- It's one thing for a proven player like Clay Matthews to miss the entire offseason program while recovering from his twice broken thumb.

Matthews has turned in Pro Bowl seasons before while missing major parts of the offseason and training camp because of hamstring injuries.

But for a player like Nick Perry, the Green Bay Packers outside linebacker who has yet to perform like the first-round pick that he was in 2012, the fact that he has been unable to participate in any on-field activities this offseason could prove to be another detriment to his development.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:21:33 PM(UTC)
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Well, I was very excited when we drafted him and he sounds like a fantastic person. I hope he is able to resume his career in GB if he can get healthy. His game against CIN last season was outstanding.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:47:43 PM(UTC)
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Well, I was very excited when we drafted him and he sounds like a fantastic person. I hope he is able to resume his career in GB if he can get healthy. His game against CIN last season was outstanding.


Him and Lacy would be the definition of thunder and lightning.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:38:49 PM(UTC)
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Did The Packers give up on Sherrod after his injury?

What about Richardson?

Seems to me with the rb's already in camp this year that there would be know real hurry or desperation to figure out what to do with Franklin.

IR him for 2014 if he isn't ready to go, and if it is determined he will in time be able to play again.

This is a decision that doesn't have to be made until the end of TC.

The worse scenario is his career is over, the best is he has a full recovery and joins what is now a pretty deep stable of RB's.

Hell with the talent already here this year, might not be a bad idea to put him on IR, and have him come back next year fresh as ever.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:01:28 PM(UTC)
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I see Franklin as the 4th best of the 4 - Lacy, Starks, Harris, and him. Maybe it's selfish as a Packer fan, but I'd rather see him done than go on to a good career with some other team.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:18:38 PM(UTC)
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Apparently he didn't stretch
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:56:50 PM(UTC)
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Apparently he didn't stretch


You laugh.

Acupuncture would square him away in probably 2-3 weeks. But as far as "stretching," I would recommend TWO forms. Ba Duan Jin: 8 Pieces of Brocade. Basic external qigong. Then also Yi Jin Jing: Muscle Tendon Change. ("Muscle Tendon Transformation.") I am not a qigong master. Just a guy who could barely walk for ten years, went to acupuncture school and is getting back on his feet. Oh yeah, I just walked around the block without a cane 20 minutes ago.


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#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:02:10 PM(UTC)
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This one has better music. lol
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:03:13 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, there is no neck injury that could end a football players career as long as they do enough yoga/stretching/acupuncture. Get real, we aren't talking about a guy having to make it around the block we're talking about a guy having to go out there and get his head/neck bashed around by 230-300 lb freight trains of human being over and over again. There is a different level of fitness required for that than there is to being able to go for a walk.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:11:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, there is no neck injury that could end a football players career as long as they do enough yoga/stretching/acupuncture. Get real, we aren't talking about a guy having to make it around the block we're talking about a guy having to go out there and get his head/neck bashed around by 230-300 lb freight trains of human being over and over again. There is a different level of fitness required for that than there is to being able to go for a walk.


We don't know what that injury is. I am presuming it's a normal minor bulge in a disc. Like Nick Collins.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:15:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
We don't know what that injury is. I am presuming it's a normal minor bulge in a disc. Like Nick Collins.


I was under the impression that it was more than a bulging disk for Collins.

It was ruptured.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:41:59 PM(UTC)
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You're all wrong. The players should go in for bloodletting twice a week. That will ensure the structural integrity of their necks.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:52:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
I see Franklin as the 4th best of the 4 - Lacy, Starks, Harris, and him. Maybe it's selfish as a Packer fan, but I'd rather see him done than go on to a good career with some other team.


Stash him on IR.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:14:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
You're all wrong. The players should go in for bloodletting twice a week. That will ensure the structural integrity of their necks.


You laugh. Bloodletting is actually a very powerful technique for sore throat, chronic headaches, etc. No bullshit.

Don't think it would heal a neck though.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:16:48 PM(UTC)
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I was under the impression that it was more than a bulging disk for Collins.

It was ruptured.


No, it was not.

Collins got kicked in the head and temporarily lost feeling in his extremeties. He got feeling back in a short time, but they scanned and found a "bulge" in a disc.

The doctors told him he needed surgery or they wouldn't clear him to play. I do not believe he needed that surgery. But once he had it, they refused to clear him anyway.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:22:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
No, it was not.

Collins got kicked in the head and temporarily lost feeling in his extremeties. He got feeling back in a short time, but they scanned and found a "bulge" in a disc.

The doctors told him he needed surgery or they wouldn't clear him to play. I do not believe he needed that surgery. But once he had it, they refused to clear him anyway.


Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:28:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.


If you want the science behind it all, talk to Dulak. We both have treated many people with the condition successfully.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:57:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.


Kind of reminds me of the old saying "stick a fork in him, he's done" except this one goes "stick a needle in him , he'll be good to go"

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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:42:50 AM(UTC)
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What was the original topic and why is Nick Collins alleged injury (Of which no one here has any real knowledge) the dominant discussion?
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#20 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:51:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan Go to Quoted Post
What was the original topic and why is Nick Collins alleged injury (Of which no one here has any real knowledge) the dominant discussion?


Franklin's health.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:21:10 AM(UTC)
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Franklin should have stretched his hamstrings more.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:08:42 PM(UTC)
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#23 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:10:54 PM(UTC)
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Franklin's career over

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Green Bay Packers running back Johnathan Franklin will not return to the team, coach Mike McCarthy said Friday. A neck injury apparently has ended his NFL career.

McCarthy spoke to the media after the final day of minicamp. Here are some highlights:

♦ I have some unfortunate news about (running back) Johnathan Franklin. The organization will address this tomorrow. All the information has come in (on his neck injury). He will not be back with us. I can’t say enough about him as a person. I don’t know. He’s as classy as anyone who’s walked through these doors. His situation will be addressed tomorrow.

(About a half-hour after McCarthy spoke, Franklin tweeted this: "Unfortunately this week I have been ruled out of returning for the 2014/15 season and returning to play in the NFL. But I understand God knows what he is doing and for now he has another platform for me to step upon.")
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#24 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:16:45 PM(UTC)
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FUCK.

Maybe it's stenosis.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:41:10 PM(UTC)
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Very disappointing news. He seemed like such a great guy and played lights out at Cincy minus the big fumble. His goal in life was to be the mayor of LA. Perhaps, he goes into politics now.

This opens the door for one of the UDFA's to make the roster... Neal or Perkins have a shot now. I can't wait to see LaDarius Perkins in preseason knowing he has a legit opportunity to stick.
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