Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline wils0646  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:53:05 AM(UTC)
wils0646

Rank: Registered
Joined: 12/15/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 4
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=808719

Quote:
Notes: Playing starring role
Collins a rare talent, Butler says
By BOB McGINN
bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Oct. 21, 2008

Green Bay - LeRoy Butler, one of the two greatest safeties in the Green Bay Packers' history, has seen enough from Nick Collins after seven games to know where he'll be headed come February.

"I think he'll make the Pro Bowl this year," Butler said Tuesday. "And that will make me very happy."

Collins is tied for the National Football League lead in interceptions with four, one more than any other safety. His 171 return yards, which include touchdowns of 42 and 62 yards, lead the NFL.

"This guy went from a good safety to a great safety in the matter of one off-season," Butler said. "Nobody is playing better than him. The reason why I'm most proud of him is because I know people gave him a lot of flak because he didn't do what I did."

Butler has paid close attention to Collins' career. He took a personal interest in his development, and they have talked many times over the last four years.

They both were second-round draft choices, Butler in 1990 and Collins in 2005, and both went to high school in Florida, Butler at Jacksonville Lee and Collins at Cross City Dixie County.

Not only that but Collins also was the first player to be issued Butler's No. 36 jersey. Butler was forced to retire in July 2002 because of a shoulder injury.

"There's no other guy I'd rather have wearing it than him," Butler said. "I'm hoping he can duplicate everything I ever did."

At the invitation of general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy, Butler has watched several home games from the bench area during Collins' career. He was there Sunday when he saw Collins break up a long pass for wide receiver Marvin Harrison of the Indianapolis Colts that "blew my mind," according to Butler.

"That play impressed me more than any play I saw in the whole game Sunday," Butler said. "I don't think I ever played with a guy who could have made that play. I don't think I could have."

Midway through the third quarter, Peyton Manning gunned a perfect pass that seemed destined to be caught by Harrison at the goal line behind cornerback Will Blackmon for a 27-yard touchdown.

Playing the near hashmark in a two-safety look, Collins had Reggie Wayne racing down the seam straight at him with Charles Woodson in tight trail coverage. To Collins' left, Harrison had beaten Blackmon and was sprinting toward the end zone.

"As a safety you try to scan the entire field," Butler said. "In my peripheral vision, I see Marvin breaking past Blackmon. 'I gotta go now. I gotta go. I've got to commit over there to break this ball up.'

"A lot of safeties would have stood on their hash, got a late break or broke too flat. And the ball would have gone right over their head and it would have been a touchdown."

Collins bolted over, leaped high into the air near the 7 and deflected the ball just enough so it couldn't be caught.

After the game, Collins actually called it an "average break" and said if he had angled back toward the 5, he could have intercepted.

"In a perfect world, you want to take all these angles," Butler said. "But he did the most unselfish thing he's done. He went up there and knocked the ball down. Had he tried to extend himself to intercept it, and it had gone through his hands or over his hands and the guy scored, he would never forgive himself.

[size=18]"Now Darren Sharper, in his prime, used to miss a lot of balls because he wanted the interception and the guy would score. Sharper would have been shallow and gone for the pick. If he missed the pick, touchdown.[/size]

"I just want people to realize how good that play really was. He came from nowhere. Peyton thought it was a touchdown."

Why wouldn't Butler have been able to defend that pass in his prime?

"The speed and the anticipation," he said. "He's a lot faster than I was. I hated to vacate that middle, but he left the middle in a hurry. His decision-making is better than mine."

Butler said he doubted Collins would have broken it up in the past three seasons.

The Packers haven't had a Pro Bowl safety since Sharper in 2002, and Collins is eager to be the next.

"That's a goal of mine," Collins said. "It'd be great. But I'm just here to play football and help this team win the best way I can."

On the way
McCarthy's wife, Jessica, had a doctor's appointment Tuesday and the birth of their first child appears imminent.

"She's close," McCarthy said last week. "She's ready. I'm ready. I just want to see her."

No decision
For almost 2 seasons, A.J. Hawk and Nick Barnett have been the linebackers in the nickel defense. But Hawk, who perhaps wasn't 100% with a groin injury, sat out Sunday in favor of Brandon Chillar, who drew praise from the coaches.

On Monday, McCarthy wouldn't say whether Hawk would be back in the nickel for the next game.

"Those are good problems to have," McCarthy said. "I think in hindsight it was a good move that A.J. didn't have to play as much this week. He has a chance to get healthy. We don't just have 11 starters."
Sponsor
Offline Packers_Finland  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:22:31 PM(UTC)
Packers_Finland

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 88
Applause Received: 45
Collins is Pro Bowl-bound this year. Be sure to vote him. I'd didn't see the play Butler talked about because I didn't see the game. But I'd love to see it somewhere though. Maybe I gotta go check out Z2C's highlights -> goes there now.
Offline obi1  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:56:40 PM(UTC)
obi1

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Great article but isn't Leroy off a little? I thought Leroy played Strong Safety.

As I remember, Collins was supposed to be Sharper's replacement which he is, and much better than him.

Butler's lament with Sharper goes back to 1998 playoff game against San Francisco when TO caught the TD pass that won the game for the niners.

His words "Eugene Robinson would have made that play..." was a shot at Sharper's slow reaction to get there and a dejection that Robinson was not kept after the 97 season.
Offline MassPackersFan  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:07:30 PM(UTC)
MassPackersFan

Rank: Registered
Joined: 9/16/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 7
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.
Offline obi1  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:13:48 PM(UTC)
obi1

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.


Yeah I know!

I have replayed that game on my VCR and particularly THAT part where Rice fumbled so much that I think that part of the tape has worn out...

I wonder if Hochuli was the one that blew the call?..Just kidding
Offline bakler5  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:14:49 PM(UTC)
bakler5

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.


Yea in my eyes we won the Super Bowl that year.
Offline bigfog  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:17:31 PM(UTC)
bigfog

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.


I remember watching that and being so pissed off that I whipped my Packer cap into the nearest wall and didn't pick it up for months.
Offline McPack  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:30:56 PM(UTC)
McPack

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/9/2008(UTC)
Applause Received: 1
Damn! Why did you have to bring up the Rice fumble? Now that will be playing over and over in my head all day, like a bad Carpenters song. Or "Muskrat Love." Or anything by the BeeGees. :(
Offline gbpfan  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:44:31 PM(UTC)
gbpfan

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Location: milwaukee
Applause Received: 3
i like collins think is pro bowl bound :icon_smile:
Offline zombieslayer  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:44:37 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495
Quote:

"I think he'll make the Pro Bowl this year," Butler said Tuesday. "And that will make me very happy."


It would make me very happy too. I predicted Bigby makes the Pro Bowl and Rouse replaces Collins after the bye week. Wrong on both counts, but very happy with how Collins turned out. Of course Atari's still a stud, he's just hurt.
Offline porky88  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:55:49 PM(UTC)
porky88

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2012Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2013Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2014

Rank: Veteran Member
Joined: 4/26/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 235
Applause Received: 467
If Collins keeps it up. he should be voted to the Pro Bowl. He's playing solid football. Both he and Woodson. My guess is Collins isn't to far behind Rodgers, Jennings, and IMO Kampman on the list for guys Ted Thompson plans to extend.
Offline obi1  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:51:00 PM(UTC)
obi1

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Damn! Why did you have to bring up the Rice fumble? Now that will be playing over and over in my head all day, like a bad Carpenters song. Or "Muskrat Love." Or anything by the BeeGees. :(


I don't know about Muskrat love but did the Carpenters or the Bee Gees have any bad songs? :icon_smile:
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
gbguy20 (2h) : later even
gbguy20 (2h) : Shane Ray just fell to the end of the first round. Got caught with weed.
Smokey (4h) : Go dhazer Go !
Smokey (4h) : Greg Jennings signs 2yr deal with Miami .
Zero2Cool (5h) : uffda udfa is stealing your crown of biggest Ted hater
dhazer (5h) : Last couple days I have been getting more energy and lot less pain. But I am sure TT will put me back in pain lol
Smokey (6h) : Hello to ALL !
Smokey (27-Apr) : Hello Tex, r u going to join the Draft Chat this Thursday ?
Smokey (26-Apr) : Zero2Cool - 1 = Not2Cool :)
Smokey (26-Apr) : How are you feeling dhazer ?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : BTW, when submitting shout, you must click SEND, return no workie.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Some folks just do not learn.
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : ctrl + f5 to see gooder tablet layout
gbguy20 (23-Apr) : woops
gbguy20 (23-Apr) : oh LOL
Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : u started a thread for another site seeking fans an writers :)
gbguy20 (23-Apr) : welp, i don't even know what you are referring to zero. So yes, it must have been an accident :)
Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : thanks, hectic right now tho
dhazer (22-Apr) : 1-0 pens
dhazer (22-Apr) : kevin you got pens
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : gbguy20 - assuming you created that by accident lol
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Early Thanksgiving!! haha
Smokey (20-Apr) : Sorry to hear about your Turkey encounter. The bird was killed and tenderized ? Clean it, pluck it , and freeze it. Tastey Eating roasted !
Zero2Cool (20-Apr) : Schedule will be available tomorrow.
Smokey (20-Apr) : Eagles to sign TEBOW !
Mucky Tundra (19-Apr) : TEBOW
Zero2Cool (17-Apr) : Wow, the site is freaking smoking fast
Smokey (17-Apr) : Gilbert, \_/ !!
Smokey (17-Apr) : Zero, drink one shot with me pal !
Smokey (17-Apr) : Who will drink with me ? \_/
Smokey (17-Apr) : \_/, Cheers !
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : you did it!
Mucky Tundra (16-Apr) : i guess the packernews link really was buggy
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : lol oops... those should be img and img not im and url... nm im tired bed time
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : each tag has to have a closing tag . [img]url[/url] like that
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2015 Schedule
Sunday, Sep 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Sep 20 @ 7:30 PM
SEAHAWKS
Monday, Sep 28 @ 7:30 PM
CHIEFS
Sunday, Oct 4 @ 3:25 PM
at 49ers
Sunday, Oct 11 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Oct 18 @ 3:25 PM
CHARGERS
Sunday, Oct 25 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Sunday, Nov 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Broncos
Sunday, Nov 8 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Sunday, Nov 15 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 22 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Thursday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
BEARS
Thursday, Dec 3 @ 7:25 PM
at Lions
Sunday, Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Sunday, Dec 20 @ 3:05 PM
at Raiders
Sunday, Dec 27 @ 3:25 PM
at Cardinals
Sunday, Jan 3 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS

Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

3h / Announcements / Zero2Cool

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / BobBrews

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / rabidgopher04

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / yooperfan

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Bigbyfan


Tweeter