Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
2 Pages12>
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline wils0646  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:53:05 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 12/15/2006(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 4

Notes: Playing starring role
Collins a rare talent, Butler says
Posted: Oct. 21, 2008

Green Bay - LeRoy Butler, one of the two greatest safeties in the Green Bay Packers' history, has seen enough from Nick Collins after seven games to know where he'll be headed come February.

"I think he'll make the Pro Bowl this year," Butler said Tuesday. "And that will make me very happy."

Collins is tied for the National Football League lead in interceptions with four, one more than any other safety. His 171 return yards, which include touchdowns of 42 and 62 yards, lead the NFL.

"This guy went from a good safety to a great safety in the matter of one off-season," Butler said. "Nobody is playing better than him. The reason why I'm most proud of him is because I know people gave him a lot of flak because he didn't do what I did."

Butler has paid close attention to Collins' career. He took a personal interest in his development, and they have talked many times over the last four years.

They both were second-round draft choices, Butler in 1990 and Collins in 2005, and both went to high school in Florida, Butler at Jacksonville Lee and Collins at Cross City Dixie County.

Not only that but Collins also was the first player to be issued Butler's No. 36 jersey. Butler was forced to retire in July 2002 because of a shoulder injury.

"There's no other guy I'd rather have wearing it than him," Butler said. "I'm hoping he can duplicate everything I ever did."

At the invitation of general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy, Butler has watched several home games from the bench area during Collins' career. He was there Sunday when he saw Collins break up a long pass for wide receiver Marvin Harrison of the Indianapolis Colts that "blew my mind," according to Butler.

"That play impressed me more than any play I saw in the whole game Sunday," Butler said. "I don't think I ever played with a guy who could have made that play. I don't think I could have."

Midway through the third quarter, Peyton Manning gunned a perfect pass that seemed destined to be caught by Harrison at the goal line behind cornerback Will Blackmon for a 27-yard touchdown.

Playing the near hashmark in a two-safety look, Collins had Reggie Wayne racing down the seam straight at him with Charles Woodson in tight trail coverage. To Collins' left, Harrison had beaten Blackmon and was sprinting toward the end zone.

"As a safety you try to scan the entire field," Butler said. "In my peripheral vision, I see Marvin breaking past Blackmon. 'I gotta go now. I gotta go. I've got to commit over there to break this ball up.'

"A lot of safeties would have stood on their hash, got a late break or broke too flat. And the ball would have gone right over their head and it would have been a touchdown."

Collins bolted over, leaped high into the air near the 7 and deflected the ball just enough so it couldn't be caught.

After the game, Collins actually called it an "average break" and said if he had angled back toward the 5, he could have intercepted.

"In a perfect world, you want to take all these angles," Butler said. "But he did the most unselfish thing he's done. He went up there and knocked the ball down. Had he tried to extend himself to intercept it, and it had gone through his hands or over his hands and the guy scored, he would never forgive himself.

[size=18]"Now Darren Sharper, in his prime, used to miss a lot of balls because he wanted the interception and the guy would score. Sharper would have been shallow and gone for the pick. If he missed the pick, touchdown.[/size]

"I just want people to realize how good that play really was. He came from nowhere. Peyton thought it was a touchdown."

Why wouldn't Butler have been able to defend that pass in his prime?

"The speed and the anticipation," he said. "He's a lot faster than I was. I hated to vacate that middle, but he left the middle in a hurry. His decision-making is better than mine."

Butler said he doubted Collins would have broken it up in the past three seasons.

The Packers haven't had a Pro Bowl safety since Sharper in 2002, and Collins is eager to be the next.

"That's a goal of mine," Collins said. "It'd be great. But I'm just here to play football and help this team win the best way I can."

On the way
McCarthy's wife, Jessica, had a doctor's appointment Tuesday and the birth of their first child appears imminent.

"She's close," McCarthy said last week. "She's ready. I'm ready. I just want to see her."

No decision
For almost 2 seasons, A.J. Hawk and Nick Barnett have been the linebackers in the nickel defense. But Hawk, who perhaps wasn't 100% with a groin injury, sat out Sunday in favor of Brandon Chillar, who drew praise from the coaches.

On Monday, McCarthy wouldn't say whether Hawk would be back in the nickel for the next game.

"Those are good problems to have," McCarthy said. "I think in hindsight it was a good move that A.J. didn't have to play as much this week. He has a chance to get healthy. We don't just have 11 starters."
Offline Packers_Finland  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:22:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 88
Applause Received: 45
Collins is Pro Bowl-bound this year. Be sure to vote him. I'd didn't see the play Butler talked about because I didn't see the game. But I'd love to see it somewhere though. Maybe I gotta go check out Z2C's highlights -> goes there now.
Offline obi1  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:56:40 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Great article but isn't Leroy off a little? I thought Leroy played Strong Safety.

As I remember, Collins was supposed to be Sharper's replacement which he is, and much better than him.

Butler's lament with Sharper goes back to 1998 playoff game against San Francisco when TO caught the TD pass that won the game for the niners.

His words "Eugene Robinson would have made that play..." was a shot at Sharper's slow reaction to get there and a dejection that Robinson was not kept after the 97 season.
Offline MassPackersFan  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:07:30 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/16/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 7
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.
Offline obi1  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:13:48 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.

Yeah I know!

I have replayed that game on my VCR and particularly THAT part where Rice fumbled so much that I think that part of the tape has worn out...

I wonder if Hochuli was the one that blew the call?..Just kidding
Offline bakler5  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:14:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.

Yea in my eyes we won the Super Bowl that year.
Offline bigfog  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:17:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I refuse to believe that play existed. Rice fumbled and we recovered the ball. We ended up winning the game.

I remember watching that and being so pissed off that I whipped my Packer cap into the nearest wall and didn't pick it up for months.
Offline McPack  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:30:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/9/2008(UTC)
Applause Received: 1
Damn! Why did you have to bring up the Rice fumble? Now that will be playing over and over in my head all day, like a bad Carpenters song. Or "Muskrat Love." Or anything by the BeeGees. :(
Offline gbpfan  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:44:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Location: milwaukee
Applause Received: 3
i like collins think is pro bowl bound :icon_smile:
Offline zombieslayer  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:44:37 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495

"I think he'll make the Pro Bowl this year," Butler said Tuesday. "And that will make me very happy."

It would make me very happy too. I predicted Bigby makes the Pro Bowl and Rouse replaces Collins after the bye week. Wrong on both counts, but very happy with how Collins turned out. Of course Atari's still a stud, he's just hurt.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.



Fan Shout
Porforis (2h) : Being someone moderately critical of Adams, I feel the need to say "good game" and tip my hat.
Mucky Tundra (2h) : oh shit, they play at TN the weekend before my birthday
Zero2Cool (2h) : 4 of 5 next games ... on the road again
Mucky Tundra (2h) : hey we actually play on the road next week
Zero2Cool (2h) : 4 Teams who lost to Packers are 9W - 18L
Zero2Cool (2h) : 2 Teams who beat Packers are combined 10 - 1 going into this weekend.
Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers defense only gave up a FG. Not too bad.
TheKanataThrilla (11h) : Go Cubs!!! Make this a good night.
Smokey (11h) : Next up, Atlanta Falcons
Smokey (15h) : The "CHAT" is very OPEN !
Smokey (15h) : What's the story on Don Jackson ?
buckeyepackfan (16h) : Good Evening Packer Fans! GAME NIGHT! Time to do a little Bear Hunting! z
Zero2Cool (20h) : Mike McCarthy says 2011 CBA is cause of increase in injuries
Pack93z (20h) : Did the moment it hit the timeline.. lol
Zero2Cool (20h) : Nice. just RT it
Pack93z (20h) : Alex Green reached out on twitter.. .lol
Porforis (20h) : Or Ryan Grant?
Porforis (20h) : Is Ahman Green available?
hardrocker950 (21h) : Hard to say, just don't know if they will have him returning kicks when they are depleted at RB
Zero2Cool (21h) : Knile probably contribute more on Kick Returns than RB. Until week 10
hardrocker950 (21h) : I don't have high expectations of Knile, but I hope he surprises everyone
Zero2Cool (21h) : No meltdown. Packers have Knile Davis, sub 4.4 speedster and Aaron is gonna get going.
Zero2Cool (21h) : I think we should make more jokes about his weight, like every other sniveling bitch ass coward.
Pack93z (21h) : Guy showed a ton of heart last week... dude was not just playing hurt. Should have been shut down.
hardrocker950 (21h) : Ya, that is a rough injury
Pack93z (21h) : Well... I expect PackerNation to melt down now... Lacy to IR
beast (20-Oct) : Is it too late to actived Don Jackson from the PS? Is that going to happen or not?
beast (20-Oct) : Abby is out. But seriously if he's not going to get any snaps on the field and gets injured in the few that he does play... is he worth a ro
Porforis (19-Oct) : If Adams is out (which I'm sure he will be) and Abby doesn't get snaps then PLEASE JUST TRADE HIM IF YOU DONT USE HIM
beast (19-Oct) : No Don Jackson move?
Zero2Cool (19-Oct) : Those from Wes Hodkiewicz
Zero2Cool (19-Oct) : WR Davante Adams (concussion) returned to practice in a limited capacity today. He's questionable
Zero2Cool (19-Oct) : Eddie Lacy, Jared Cook, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, James Starks, Chis Banjo and Jared Abbrederis are all out for Thursday
Pack93z (19-Oct) : has finally found some light... pulling up golden posts of yesteryear... master plan coming to life.
Pack93z (19-Oct) : In a secret lab someplace, Zero is rubbing his hands together, a sinister laugh filling the air... finally, all this care of all this data i
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl LI
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
4m / Green Bay Packers Talk / gbguy20

23m / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

53m / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Pack93z

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

Packers Headlines