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Offline RaiderPride  
#26 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:06:01 PM(UTC)
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$20 MILLION GUARANTEED FOR RODGERS
Posted by Mike Florio on October 31, 2008, 4:46 p.m. EDT
The contract signed Friday by Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers pay him big money. But not huge money.

But wed take it if we could get it.

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Rodgers will receive $20 million guaranteed on a six-year, $65 million deal.

The contract falls short of the deal signed last year by Tony Romo of the Cowboys, wholl receiver $67 million over six years, and who got $30 million guaranteed. And Romos deal was criticized in some circles for not pushing north the high-water mark for high-end quarterbacks.

After three years of sitting on the bench (and losing plenty of money via unachievable play-time incentives), Rodgers likely opted to take what he could get now in lieu of pushing for free agency after the 2009 season.

Absent an extension to the CBA, Rodgers would have been eligible for restricted free agency only after next season, because the rules of the uncapped year (set for 2010) require players to have six or more seasons in order to achieve unrestricted free agency.
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Offline Roddyboy  
#27 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:08:00 PM(UTC)
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Yawn....
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Offline HoustonMatt  
#28 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:14:27 PM(UTC)
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Those numbers look about right. The guaranteed money is actually lower than I expected, so that mitigates a lot of the risk. Good job, TT!
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#29 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:46:45 PM(UTC)
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glad they at least have one taken care of :icon_smile:
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#30 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:49:53 PM(UTC)
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He should have honored his current contract and played it out.

(This will be the undoing of Ted Thompson....guaranteed!)


Hmmm didn't the Packers keep extending another QB through the 90's and into this century well in advance to his contract expiring.. pretty damn sure they did.

That is smart money.. if the duck quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and can throw the damn football like an NFL QB.. you lock his arse up.

Look for the same positive FA effect this team has with a solid NFL QB in the fold.. glad they got this deal done.


Theres a huge difference pack and they kept redoing his contract because he would take pay cuts to sign free agents. i don't agree with it but i do agree with roddy on this way to early for this 8 games into a career and you throw the bank at him this could be the end of Ted Thompson (thank god maybe we can stop planning for the future) oh wait thats what he just did.



how can you say a solid qb with a 4-3 record? and thanks for the laugh you brought up free agency and green bay in the same sentence lol. Ted Thompson and free agents don't go together.
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Offline millertime  
#31 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:52:41 PM(UTC)
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Hopefully Collins, Jennings, and Williams are next
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#32 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:55:24 PM(UTC)
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He should have honored his current contract and played it out.

(This will be the undoing of Ted Thompson....guaranteed!)


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what if I were to tell you that during the summer they went to him and said lets re-do your contract and he said okay..

Then the whole drama thing happened..

He then went to them and said dont worry about it now, get the BF thing settled I'll still be here next year to work on it

But stuff like that never makes it into the media..And since it didn't you wont believe it..

Or will you?
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#33 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:56:17 PM(UTC)
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By Bob McGinn

Green Bay - Quarterback Aaron Rodgers impressive performance in seven starts was enough for the Green Bay Packers to sign him Friday to a lucrative contract through the 2014 season.

Rodgers signed the deal after practice at about 1 p.m. Terms were not disclosed.

Im very excited knowing that my future is going to be here in Green Bay, Rodgers said. I appreciate the commitment theyve made to me. [img]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20081031&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=81031110&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=318&Border=0[/img]Hopefully, I can prove to them that they made the correct decision to give me this extension.

Rodgers, 24, signed a five-year, $7.66 million contract in August 2005 after being the 24th selection in the first round. He was playing under his existing contract, which included a base salary of $1.052 million in both 2008 and 09, although his 09 base salary would have increased substantially because of an escalator clause.

But the Packers, with $19.994 million of room under the salary cap, had seen all they needed to see.

We think hes a good player and weve thought that for some time, Packers general manager Ted Thompson said. We think this is a good long-term investment for the organization.

Is Rodgers a worthy successor to Brett Favre?

I dont know if Im going to compare him to anybody, said Thompson. We just think hes going to be a very good NFL quarterback.

Were looking at it from a longer view rather than just the last two months. I do think hes gone in and played the games well. Hes had good command of the huddle. He has handled the chaos of an NFL game pretty well.

We think he will continue to develop in his craft.

Rodgers has a 98.8 passer rating, which ranks eighth in the National Football League. His predecessor, Favre, ranks 14th at 89.5 with the New York Jets.

Certainly, the contracts signed by quarterbacks Tony Romo and David Garrard with the Dallas Cowboys and Jacksonville Jaguars, respectively, weighed on negotiations between the Packers and David Dunn, the agent for Rodgers. Read More....

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Offline Roddyboy  
#34 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 6:57:53 PM(UTC)
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TT's going to sign a bunch of his own guys and no FA's that could really help this team.

Get ready for a bunch of mediocre football.

This team may always be kind of good, but they will never be great, and they will never be Champions because of moves like this.
Ted Thompson doesn't understand what Ron Wolf did.

You build a nucleus of a team through the draft, and you put it over the top by signing KEY freee agents for need.
Ted Thompson is in love with himself so much he will only depend on the draft, and that will be his un-doing.


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Offline cheeseheads123  
#35 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:06:33 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?
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#36 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:12:05 PM(UTC)
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I'll make this short and sweet. Huge mistake paying him elite qb money for a 4-3 starter that isn't blowing the league away. Oh well this was all expected TT's son is now rich maybe he could leave a bigger tip ;)
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Offline Greg C.  
#37 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:13:39 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?


I bet Jennings is very happy, because now that Rodgers' contract is done, Jennings is the team's top priority.

Zero, thanks for the good news. This is awesome. Aaron deserves it.
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#38 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:17:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?


I bet Jennings is very happy, because now that Rodgers' contract is done, Jennings is the team's top priority.

Zero, thanks for the good news. This is awesome. Aaron deserves it.



how can you honestly say he deserves elite qb money? he is 4-3 thats the bottom line. so pay a guy 20 million a year for a 9-7 season? I just don't understand maybe if he has done well for 2-3 years ya but not 7 games.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#39 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:17:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?



Why don't you read the article where he was asked? C'mon! This is about Rodgers for crying out loud. Sir Jennings has his own thread in which he says... well you go find it. :)







I don't know the numbers so I can't really say much about this contract yet. It's being reported as something like 11 million per year. I think that's a bit much. But then again I'm one of those tards who believes contracts should be more incentive based.
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#40 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:23:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?


I bet Jennings is very happy, because now that Rodgers' contract is done, Jennings is the team's top priority.

Zero, thanks for the good news. This is awesome. Aaron deserves it.



how can you honestly say he deserves elite qb money? he is 4-3 thats the bottom line. so pay a guy 20 million a year for a 9-7 season? I just don't understand maybe if he has done well for 2-3 years ya but not 7 games.


The terms of the deal have not been announced, so my comment was not about money, it was about the fact that he's got a contract through 2014. He deserves it for conducting himself like a pro for three years in the shadow of Brett Favre, then being completely ready to lead the team when he got his chance.

I'm confident that the money will be reasonable for the Packers. Thompson is not one to compromise the team's future by overpaying any one player.
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Offline HoustonMatt  
#41 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:29:48 PM(UTC)
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The terms have been released. They were posted in the thread earlier. 6yrs/$65 million of which $20 million is guaranteed.

For comparison, Romo got 6yrs/$67 million of which $30 million is guaranteed.

David Garrard signed for 6yrs/$60 million of which $18 million is guaranteed.

Whether you agree with the money or not, what Aaron is being paid is right in line with what the market dictates.

EDIT:

For what it's worth, Matt Ryan, with zero experience, signed a 6yrs/$72 million deal of which $34.75 million is guaranteed.

So don't complain about the money. It's fair value, if not somewhat of a bargain.
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#42 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:30:02 PM(UTC)
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Thompson is proving time and time again that he is one of the smartest GM's around. He has nearly completely changed this team since the Sherman era and replaced it with his guys and each and every season we get impressed by the rookies and see improvement from the previous year from the other young guys. We're going to be very good for very long, and we will have a very good quarterback for very long.
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#43 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:31:27 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad to see this. But how do you think Jennings feels about this?



Why don't you read the article where he was asked? C'mon! This is about Rodgers for crying out loud. Sir Jennings has his own thread in which he says... well you go find it. :)







I don't know the numbers so I can't really say much about this contract yet. It's being reported as something like 11 million per year. I think that's a bit much. But then again I'm one of those tards who believes contracts should be more incentive based.
Yeah i didn't read the whole thing my bad :).
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#44 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:31:44 PM(UTC)
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they just said on espn that its up there that he will being paid elite qb money. And how he handled himself sitting the bench i wouldnt be upset collecting free money would you?

$65 million for 6 years and 20 million guaranteed for a 4-3 starter thats just plain nuts.
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#45 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:40:37 PM(UTC)
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they just said on espn that its up there that he will being paid elite qb money. And how he handled himself sitting the bench i wouldnt be upset collecting free money would you?

$65 million for 6 years and 20 million guaranteed for a 4-3 starter thats just plain nuts.


Okay, I've seen the terms. (Thanks for posting that, Matt.) It is elite money, but not unreasonable. Good QB's do not grow on trees. Just ask fans of the Lions, Bears, or Vikings, for starters.

As for sitting on the bench, yes, I give Aaron a lot of credit for continuing to practice hard, to improve his attitude (they say he was a little too cocky when he first got here), and not make any snotty comments to the media, as so often happens when a highly touted player has to sit the bench. He couldn't have handled the whole thing any better than he did, with the only exception being the comment about fans needing to get on board or shut up, and he sort of backed down on that statement when asked about it later.
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#46 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:40:51 PM(UTC)
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Call me crazy (or more intelligent than you), but I believe they didn't pay him over 60 million for the four wins he helped the Packers get. Its probably more for what he'll do for them in the future. They feel confident in his abilities and a large percentage of those who know something about the game, would agree. I'm going to have to take that side over those who dislike Rodgers because they are too (edit) to be objective.
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#47 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 7:52:42 PM(UTC)
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I havent looked or noticed but just in case


Those that were happy that Grant got his "pay day" sure as hell better feel same about Rodgers contract.

I'll be checking to see who is double talking out their a@@
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#48 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 8:37:08 PM(UTC)
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I havent looked or noticed but just in case


Those that were happy that Grant got his "pay day" sure as hell better feel same about Rodgers contract.

I'll be checking to see who is double talking out their a@@



whewwww i'm safe i said the same thing that the player needs more than 7 or 8 games to get the big money, make them prove it for 2-3 years first.
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#49 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 8:51:33 PM(UTC)
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whewwww i'm safe i said the same thing that the player needs more than 7 or 8 games to get the big money, make them prove it for 2-3 years first.


I think everyone would agree that would be the ideal scenario, but it doesn't necessarily apply to Aaron because of his current contract situation. We essentially had 3 options:

1) Extend him this week so we could count money against this year's cap.
2) Wait to see how he plays for the whole year and extend him in the offseason.
3) Let him walk at the end of '09 or try to re-sign him then.

Option 3 is probably the least preferable. If you want to bring Aaron back, it doesn't make sense to let him hit free agency and then compete in abidding war with other teams. Option 2 makes some sense, but then you lose the ability to use this year's cap room. And, really, why wait another 9 games? Management has had 3.5 years to evaluate this kid in practice and on the field. If they don't have a feel for what they think he can do by know, they would be considered incompetent. Aaron's not likely to show them anything they don't know over the next 9 games. That's why I think locking him now was the best decision.

NOTE: I purposely didn't include an extension midway through next season as option 4. Typically, if a player is 8 games away from free agency, the risk of injury is low enough that they'd be better off testing the market to maximize their value.
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#50 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2008 9:02:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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He should have honored his current contract and played it out.

(This will be the undoing of Ted Thompson....guaranteed!)




what if I were to tell you that during the summer they went to him and said lets re-do your contract and he said okay..

Then the whole drama thing happened..

He then went to them and said dont worry about it now, get the Brett Favre thing settled I'll still be here next year to work on it

But stuff like that never makes it into the media..And since it didn't, you wont believe it..


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