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dfosterf  
#21 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 4:32:08 PM(UTC)
+1 all about. There will be some dead money involved next year, something Ted Thompson has been so very excellent at minimizing, but make no mistake, KGB gets his full pay for the rest of the year. I hate dead money... If you ever want to see something really ugly, go look at the Vikes dead money situation. I almost (almost) feel sorry for vikesrule and formo in that particular department. This was not a money thing.
wpr  
#22 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 4:45:35 PM(UTC)
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I loved KGB, class act and he will be missed, but his production was not impressive at all this year. This was a little surprising to me considering the lack of depth there, but i think we all knew it would happen sooner or later.

Well, now that its done, where do they stand on the DL?

from packers.com:

LDE 74 Aaron Kampman 99 Jeremy Thompson* 93 Kenny Pettway
LDT 79 Ryan Pickett 90 Colin Cole
RDT 97 Johnny Jolly 91 Justin Harrell
RDE 96 Michael Montgomery 99 Jeremy Thompson* 57 Jason Hunter

So, kampman, picket, jolly monty/thompson on the first team, i sort of expect thompson to start with his good play the last couple games

and kampman, monty, jolly/cole, and thompson on passing downs?

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, but i seem to remember in TC talk of monty playing a lot on the inside.

thanks quake. you saved me some time.
dfosterf  
#23 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 4:48:38 PM(UTC)
I want to revise, quite a bit, actually... I'm pretty sure it wasn't a money thing.
blueleopard  
#24 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 4:52:51 PM(UTC)
It's true that he's getting the money offered at the end of the year, but look at the rest of the roster. Pettway could've been the odd man out.
earthquake  
#25 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:05:53 PM(UTC)
I think they view pettway as a player they can develop, whereas KGB is declining. Really this seams to scream more of a long term move than anything, as i dont know that its really all that positive in the short term, considering depth. But getting some of these guys that playing time instead of KGB will be a very big positive for the future of the team, if they plan on keeping any of these guys around. At some point you've got to throw these guys out there and see what they really have to offer.

It also sends a very clear message to the rest of the players, that no matter what you've done in the past, no matter how much you make, if you do not perform you wont be playing.
buckeyepackfan  
#26 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:06:12 PM(UTC)
The Packers just keep getting younger and younger, moves like this have to effect the thinking of other veteran players.

Justin Harrell hasn't proved a thing,hopefully he stays hea;thy.

KGB won't be unemployed long, good luck to him.
Rockmolder  
#27 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:26:07 PM(UTC)
There goes my favorite player. Now I'll never be able to get his jersey :&lt;

With the way he played this year though, this was bound to happen sooner or later. Especially with his salary....

I love how he once against shows what a great guy he in his statement. I have nothing but respect for this man.
dannychau22  
#28 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:34:37 PM(UTC)
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There goes my favorite player. Now I'll never be able to get his jersey :&lt;

With the way he played this year though, this was bound to happen sooner or later. Especially with his salary....

I love how he once against shows what a great guy he in his statement. I have nothing but respect for this man.


hey bright side is since he's off the teams, sites that do sell his jersey will be forced to sell em cheaper since he's no longer on the team :thumbright:
RedSoxExcel  
#29 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:40:48 PM(UTC)
Yeah speechless. He has obviously declined but I have a lot of great memories of him. He will land on his feet somewhere in the NFL for sure.
Rockmolder  
#30 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:46:12 PM(UTC)
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There goes my favorite player. Now I'll never be able to get his jersey :&lt;

With the way he played this year though, this was bound to happen sooner or later. Especially with his salary....

I love how he once against shows what a great guy he in his statement. I have nothing but respect for this man.


hey bright side is since he's off the teams, sites that do sell his jersey will be forced to sell em cheaper since he's no longer on the team :thumbright:


Wich I still can't buy, since I don't have a CC and there'll be about a 115 dollar shipping fee to Europe :p. But this is getting a bit off-topic.

I see everyone is pretty confident he's getting on a new team though. So what team would actually have him? Realistically, he hasn't stopped the run in his entire career and his pass-rushing has been less than average this season. Only his vision seemed to be good, dropping back in coverage etc. when not getting blocked and what not.

We're a team that needs help on the D-line and we're releasing him... so what team would actually sign him?
MassPackersFan  
#31 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:48:18 PM(UTC)
Strategically, I think it's smart. I never liked the huge signing. He was a class act though. I wish him the best.
Zero2Cool  
#32 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:03:02 PM(UTC)
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I think it's probably because KGB is one of our highest paid players. If he didn't make so much money, he probably wouldn't have been a casualty.


Are you serious? You think this is solely about money?

KGB is a veteran, meaning the Packers have to pay him his remaining salary for the year, even if they cut him. This move saves the Packers no money, and the fact that we are loads under the salary cap means we didn't need to save the money anyways, seeing as cap surplus doesn't carry from year to year.


This move is simply to sure up our biggest weakness: Run D. KGB is a one trick pony, and lately he had been doing his one trick pretty poorly. Given that KGB doesn't play ST either, this move was the only move that would least impact the overall dynamics of the team. Pettaway and Hunter will now be relied on to fill KGB's role on 3rd Downs.

The interesting thing in all of this is that I thought KGB was coming off his best game of the season against the Colts. That's not really saying a whole lot considering how ineffective KGB has been this year, but I thought the improvement would've bought him some time to see if he could continue his upward play. I guess that wasn't going to be the case.


Well said AADP.
Cheesey  
#33 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:10:33 PM(UTC)
Awww man.........my wife is gonna be crushed! He was her favorite player.
I really liked him too.
Truth is though, it's a business, and he wasn't playing well at all.
Makes me VERY sad.
CubanPenguin  
#34 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:11:03 PM(UTC)
While lots has been said about Kabeers amazing class I just wonder where you guys think he could end up going. Do any of you think he would be a good fit as a pass rushing LB in a 3-4 or would he get exposed in pass coverage. Or will he stick to the 4-3 or simply retire?
Cheesey  
#35 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:13:27 PM(UTC)
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While lots has been said about Kabeers amazing class I just wonder where you guys think he could end up going. Do any of you think he would be a good fit as a pass rushing LB in a 3-4 or would he get exposed in pass coverage. Or will he stick to the 4-3 or simply retire?

I think someone that thinks he can still pass rush will pick him up.
If his knees really are getting bad, i don't think LB would be a good spot for him.
JMO of course.
TengoJuego  
#36 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:18:41 PM(UTC)
I saw this coming from a mile away. He just didn't have the motor anymore. I love KGB...but we needed to move on without him.
Dusting  
#37 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:52:17 PM(UTC)
What a first class guy as evidenced by his statement. He will be missed, and I hope he sticks around the community and hopefully the organization in another manner.
DGB454  
#38 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:54:53 PM(UTC)
Farewell to a Packer great. You will be missed and you will always be a Packer.
DarkaneRules  
#39 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 6:59:14 PM(UTC)
I will miss him as a part of this team mostly because of the amazing years of service he gave to the Green Bay Packers.

I do agree with the point above though that unfortunately the one thing he was kept here to do, he just cannot do effectively anymore. Other teams were also quick to catch onto what we were trying to do when he was put in and we got burned every time.

I wish KGB the best. Hopefully the great commentator tongue twister can continue to play or find another outlet for his passions. I have no doubt that he will.
Greg C.  
#40 Posted : Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:03:37 PM(UTC)
Wow, this is a shocker. I can see what Ted is thinking, though. KGB has become a speed rusher without the speed. Jeremy Thompson has passed him up. I was hoping KGB's knee would get better, and he would be back to his old self before the end of the season, but he's now to the age where injuries don't heal so quickly. Too bad. I've always had a lot of respect for him. What a classy statement he made in that article. This had to be really crushing for him. Just a couple days ago I had seen him on TV saying that he thought he would be back up to speed soon.

Somebody will pick him up as a pass rushing specialist in a 4-3 defense, unless his injury is worse than we know, which is possible.
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