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Offline dhazer  
#51 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 4:04:06 PM(UTC)
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Aaron Rodgers is nothing more than a system quarterback, dontchaknow.
What's wrong with a system QB? Assuming the system doesn't suck.


Well the Rodgers skeptics shouldn't be answering this, it should be all the people praising him. You people are the same ones that claim that Rodgers is better than Collins, Flacco, and Ryan because they are system qbs. They do what is asked of them and and win games, but yet it wasn't them it was either the defense that won the game or it was the running game. I could care less what kind of a qb they are they lead there teams to Wins and thats all that counts. You can have a qb throw for 6,000 yards 50 tds with a 4-12 record and a qb that throws for 2600 yards and 13 tds but the team finishes 12-4, I would be more than happy with the latter qb because he does whats asked of him and he wins.

Btw this wasn't meant to cut down Rodgers (but i'm sure a few of you will read it that way) just meant to say i would want a qb that does what it takes to win games.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#52 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 4:34:09 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Aaron Rodgers is nothing more than a system quarterback, dontchaknow.
What's wrong with a system QB? Assuming the system doesn't suck.


Well the Rodgers skeptics shouldn't be answering this, it should be all the people praising him. You people are the same ones that claim that Rodgers is better than Collins, Flacco, and Ryan because they are system qbs. They do what is asked of them and and win games, but yet it wasn't them it was either the defense that won the game or it was the running game. I could care less what kind of a qb they are they lead there teams to Wins and thats all that counts. You can have a qb throw for 6,000 yards 50 tds with a 4-12 record and a qb that throws for 2600 yards and 13 tds but the team finishes 12-4, I would be more than happy with the latter qb because he does whats asked of him and he wins.

Btw this wasn't meant to cut down Rodgers (but i'm sure a few of you will read it that way) just meant to say i would want a qb that does what it takes to win games.


I guarantee you wouldn't be more than happy with the latter qb if he was stuck on the former team.
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Offline bozz_2006  
#53 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 4:48:53 PM(UTC)
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i'd be wishing his stats were better, thinking if they were that maybe we'd be 13-3 or 14-2...

there's nothing wrong with a system quarterback. my definition of a system QB is one who fits well in the offensive scheme. In my opinion, if you are an effective offensive coordinator, you will work to make sure you have a system QB.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#54 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 5:08:16 PM(UTC)
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You people are the same ones that claim that Rodgers is better than Collins, Flacco, and Ryan because they are system qbs.


I can't speak for the others, but speaking for myself, I can say that is a gross mischaracterization of my argument. I claim Rodgers is better than Collins, Flacco, and Ryan because his output was objectively better. But for those of you who say "the only statistic that matters is wins and losses" and "stats don't matter," that argument falls on deaf ears, so the discussion goes nowhere.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#55 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 5:11:23 PM(UTC)
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If victories define the quality of a QB and the Superbowl is the greatest of all victories, then Trent Dilfer was the best quarterback in the NFL one year.
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Offline Stevetarded  
#56 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 5:44:34 PM(UTC)
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Imagine if Drew Brees was on the ravens and Flacco on the saints. Which team would have probably had a better season? #s don't mean everything but they play their part to determine the quality of a player just as wins/losses have their meaning but often don't tell you everything.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#57 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 5:54:03 PM(UTC)
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With that defense, if Drew Brees were on the Ravens, they'd be the favorite to win the Super Bowl.
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Offline Rios39  
#58 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 6:31:44 PM(UTC)
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I really don't think Drew Brees would be enough alone for that offense though. Aside from a good running game they have a really bad O-Line and below average play makers, where in NO he has great players to make throws too. There's no doubt they'd be better, but I don't know how much.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#59 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 6:37:49 PM(UTC)
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You raise some good points, but I want to point out that except for Marques Colston, it's not as though Brees has elite talent at the wide receiver position down in New Orleans. Until I glanced at the roster just now, I'd never even heard of their other WRs.
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#60 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 6:47:53 PM(UTC)
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Fun Fact: Brees threw more passes than any QB this year and had 0 1000+ yard receivers.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#61 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2009 7:15:19 PM(UTC)
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That's amazing, Steve. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#62 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:48:29 PM(UTC)
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I'm doing my part to boost team revenue. Made sure to hit the Packer Pro Shop while I was in WI last week and I got a hoodie and a Rodgers jersey.

I fully expect everyone else on here to be sporting #12 by the start of the 2009 season.
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Offline wils0646  
#63 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:51:32 PM(UTC)
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I'm doing my part to boost team revenue. Made sure to hit the Packer Pro Shop while I was in WI last week and I got a hoodie and a Rodgers jersey.

I fully expect everyone else on here to be sporting #12 by the start of the 2009 season.


I already got mine!
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#64 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:56:08 PM(UTC)
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The only jersey I have is an old Favre jersey. I need a new one. I'll probably ask for a Rodgers jersey for my birthday in September.
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Offline JNelson87  
#65 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:56:26 PM(UTC)
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I'll be getting mine, maybe off of jersey101. I bought a Scottie Pippen throwback from there, it's still in great conditition. The football jerseys im a little skeptical about tho. If you look in the link, you can see at the bottom of the sleeve, it looks like there's a stretch band on it. I've seen people with those types of jerseys, I would not want one of those. Is it really that big of a deal?

http://www.jersey101.com...t_details.asp?proid=4332
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Offline bozz_2006  
#66 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:57:24 PM(UTC)
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jersey101 sells authentic jerseys for $38???? How can that be right?
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#67 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:11:34 PM(UTC)
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What's the difference between an "authentic jersey" and a "replica jersey" anyway?
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Offline bozz_2006  
#68 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:21:24 PM(UTC)
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#69 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:25:45 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, Bozz. I'm glad to finally have that confusion cleared up. I don't buy jerseys because I think they're ugly and kind of wannabeish. Plus when a player leaves the team, then it's time to buy a new one. I'll stick to my timeless, ratty old long- and short-sleeve Packers t-shirts and my gray sweatshirt with the Packers logo appliqued on.
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Offline MassPackersFan  
#70 Posted : Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:38:45 AM(UTC)
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I thought I was cursed for a while. First I had a Sharpe jersey and then a Newsome jersey. :lol: But I broke that trend.
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