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Offline RedSoxExcel  
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:06:27 PM(UTC)
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Just finished watching a quick fastforwarded PVR of the Vikes game. Unreal drive with a minute, 30 seconds left from own 20 yard line.

The old man still has it on some level, thats why the Vikes still wanted him. Anyone that still thinks Jackson is a better option is in denial. I hate the Vikings and hope they go 0-13 from now on but anyone that thinks they didn't do the right thing by grabbing Favre is nuts.

But overall, watching that drive, it hit me, he's 39, almost 40 and he's still got "it". Last year even he had "it", 8-3 before the injury. It is pretty clear now those last 5 games were due to the injury because he looks very good this year. Sure, he could break down at any point and thats the risk you take with an old guy but until then, enjoy it boys, he's something special.

Last year he only looked good apprently because of the O-line and Thomas Jones, I guess this year its because of AP and Harvin? I don't know. Maybe its all a just concidential as a lot of people believe but I think personally, he really just still has "it".
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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:52:19 PM(UTC)
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I may not agree with everything the guy does or says, I might not like the way he plays the see saw game in the offseason, and I certainly don't like the team he plays for, but....

The guy can still play this game.. the Niners made Favre beat them but keeping Peterson somewhat in check..

That throw was money.. can't take a thing away from it. Period.

Now let the hype and media games begin for this week..
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Offline RedSoxExcel  
#3 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:00:54 PM(UTC)
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I may not agree with everything the guy does or says, I might not like the way he plays the see saw game in the offseason, and I certainly don't like the team he plays for, but....

The guy can still play this game.. the Niners made Favre beat them but keeping Peterson somewhat in check..

That throw was money.. can't take a thing away from it. Period.

Now let the hype and media games begin for this week..


I agree, this week is going to be pretty annoying in terms of the media and I like Favre. Though it seems the general media is pretty negative on him, i.e. Terry Bradshaw hates him now.

But it will be nice to see some "experts" eat crow about how Favre couldn't throw downfield anymore. That was a 50 yard strike if you include the touchdown area.

Also, as I put in NFC North area, overall the Vikes don't scare me. They're very beatable.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:56:23 PM(UTC)
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I dunno what 'it' is.. but I like 'it'.

Yeah, the Vikings are beatable.. I don't think anyone is going to deny that. They played close games for 3 quarters against the Browns/Lions. By the end of the game, they turned it up. Then, against a very good, very solid 49ers team, they took it to the wire. Every team is beatable. Even the Giants (remember last weeks game against the 'Boys?).

I don't think the Vikings goal is to scare any team. I think it's to play a tough, hard nose football with a dash of trickery and speed. So far, it's working.. Even against a tough, hard nosed football team.
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Offline LambeauEast  
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:01:22 PM(UTC)
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My feelings on him are well documented, so I won't get into it...but that was vintage Favre. Buying time and getting it to the receiver to make a play. Well done, ya pole smoker!
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:02:03 PM(UTC)
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I think Adrian is going to run wild over us and Favre will throw for something like 140 yards with short dump off's. I haven't liked the idea of this game for awhile.
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Offline nickb364  
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:13:37 PM(UTC)
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I think Adrian is going to run wild over us and Favre will throw for something like 140 yards with short dump off's. I haven't liked the idea of this game for awhile.


No faith! If we shut down Peterson it's a wrap.. We have the best secondary in the league. Our o-line also can't give up more than 2 sacks. I'm not too worried but it's certainly going to be a good game.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:17:58 PM(UTC)
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If we do beat the Vikings, we'll have a fairly nice lead in the division with all the tiebreakers. But it's still too early in the season for sweeping pronouncements, obviously.
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Offline dhpackr  
#9 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:50:04 PM(UTC)
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that pass was at least 60 yards in the air. yes, no doubt about it , ol' greybeard can still play.
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Offline DakotaT  
#10 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:37:55 PM(UTC)
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that pass was at least 60 yards in the air. yes, no doubt about it , ol' greybeard can still play.


60???? He was standing on the 39 yard line when he let her buck add 10 yards for the end zone. I know I'm just a rube from North Dakota but something doesn't equate.

Anyway, had Butterfingers Dre Bly held on to his pick six on the previous drive the papers in Minneapolis would be calling for Brett's head tomorrow.

Kudos to Brett and congratulations to the Vikings. The Niners were just Favred but they know all about that from our rivalry in the 90's.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:28:48 PM(UTC)
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that pass was at least 60 yards in the air. yes, no doubt about it , ol' greybeard can still play.


Easy there. His left foot was on the 38 yard line when he threw it and it went 10 yards deep into the end zone. That's, with the angle, about 50 yards. 50 or 60, that was a great play regardless.
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#12 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:33:58 PM(UTC)
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Great throw and just as great of a catch and bad defense combines for a MN win on an exciting last play basically.
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Offline porky88  
#13 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 12:45:21 AM(UTC)
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The question isn't and never was whether Favre could play a game or the game, but whether or not he can play at this level over the course of 16 games and then some.

That's just something that is going to have to play out.
Offline zombieslayer  
#14 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 2:53:45 AM(UTC)
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Redsox - You are right. He still has "it." In my not so humble opinion, he was the best player in the NFL last year after the Jets were at 8-3. Then it all went downhill.

So there's something to be said about what Porky said. Can he maintain it for 16 games? Can he maintain it for 19 games? What if the Vikings make the Playoffs then his arm goes out then?

Not that I'm hoping for it. I'm a Packers fan first, but if we fail, I'd root for Favre and the Vikings next. But I'm a realist. It went out with the Jets. It may not last the whole season for the Vikings. If it does, it should be interesting as he still has "it." He wins games. Plain and simple.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#15 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 10:00:51 AM(UTC)
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It sure helps when Singletary turns into a pussy and runs a prevent defense on the last drive. If there's one thing NFL coaches should have learned over the past decade and a half, it's that Favre will methodically pick apart a prevent defense. By contrast, yesterday in single score situations, I saw several teams on the final drives blitzing the hell out of quarterbacks, and what do you know -- they won the game. Singletary better be apologizing to his team for the rest of this week for such a rookie mistake.
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#16 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 10:34:52 AM(UTC)
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It sure helps when Singletary turns into a pussy


Sorry pal, but I do not think the word "Pussy" and Mike Singletary belong in the same sentence!

Some ppl r so silly!
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#17 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 10:36:39 AM(UTC)
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After watching the replay a few times. I'm more impressed with Favre's pocket presence than the throw he made. To the naked eye, it wasn't much, but if you watch he has players all around him. Subtle step here, move there, side step here, step into pocket, bye bye 49ers. He's one incredible QB.
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#18 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 10:45:47 AM(UTC)
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that pass was at least 60 yards in the air. yes, no doubt about it , ol' greybeard can still play.


60???? He was standing on the 39 yard line when he let her buck add 10 yards for the end zone. I know I'm just a rube from North Dakota but something doesn't equate.

Anyway, had Butterfingers Dre Bly held on to his pick six on the previous drive the papers in Minneapolis would be calling for Brett's head tomorrow.

Kudos to Brett and congratulations to the Vikings. The Niners were just Favred but they know all about that from our rivalry in the 90's.


OK 50 yrds, still prettty good for an old hillbilly/redneck.
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#19 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 10:50:30 AM(UTC)
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I am looking forward to the hype this week. I think it is well deserved.

Don't forget that Favre normally has a hard time against the 3-4 D so we should try to exploit that. The main way to do it is to try to shut down AP and force him to throw. We also need to score early and often to try to keep this game close.
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#20 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 11:01:56 AM(UTC)
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I am looking forward to the hype this week. I think it is well deserved.

Don't forget that Favre normally has a hard time against the 3-4 D so we should try to exploit that. The main way to do it is to try to shut down AP and force him to throw. We also need to score early and often to try to keep this game close.


Also Blitz the Right side of their Oline. And play conservative on the left.

McKinney and Hutch are solid and their main running blockers. Hold tough on them, with LBers very disciplined. Bring the pass rush with Kampman, Jolly/Raji and LBers blitzing against their right. MN is pretty close to us on the Oline, the Right side is inexperienced. Kampman should easily be able to get low and leverage on Loadholt.
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#21 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29:35 AM(UTC)
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Okay, so maybe "pussy" is too strong a word. So let's substitute "tentative" or "cautious." Either way the result is the same, and he should have known better and he deserves the loss.
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#22 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 2:16:19 PM(UTC)
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That was AMAZING.

It is funny, his first win in the Dome (as a Viking) is very similar to his first win at Lambeau. A come from behind desperation drive and a final TD in the end zone to a no-name, with no timeouts left.
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#23 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 3:21:54 PM(UTC)
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The question isn't and never was whether Favre could play a game or the game, but whether or not he can play at this level over the course of 16 games and then some.

That's just something that is going to have to play out.


That's what I was thinking. This is the honeymoon phase. He had one with the Jets too. What I can't get over is how skinny he looks, especially in the arms.
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#24 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 4:52:12 PM(UTC)
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Okay, so maybe "pussy" is too strong a word. So let's substitute "tentative" or "cautious." Either way the result is the same, and he should have known better and he deserves the loss.


He did go into prevent, which is the 'safe' route. I disagree with that statement, but, a lot of people agree.

But to call him out on no longer blitzing? Favre was picking apart their blitzing defense, and long before that last drive Singletary held up on the blitzing. Even the announcers mentioned that. And they were holding the Vikings pretty solid once they stopped blitzing so much.
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#25 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 5:39:48 PM(UTC)
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lol a Viking fan talking about how good Favre is ... just looks wrong/stupid (no offense)

It'll look even more stupid watching him pass through the Packers.
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