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Offline CalifPacker  
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:51:57 AM(UTC)
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IronMan,

I read an article a few years back on Johnny U and I believe the first MVP in 59' was voted by the players in the NFL, not the AP. I think haveing been voted that award by people you played against would mean a lot more than sports writers. JMO.

I also read on another thread here on PackersHome that was discussing Brady & Manning about the number of rings making a player the greatest of all-time. I don't by that regardless if it is the QB position or not. There have been many great players that unfortunitly were not surrounded by exceptional talent.

IMO, the greatest DL was a man that won an NFL title.

David "Deacon" Jones. Nicknamed The Sectarary Of Defence.

There was a study some time back from a guy that dug up the Ram game films from the 60's and counted "sacks" from Deacon. The numbers were staggering, like 22-24 a season in 12-14 games. But, sacks were not part of offical NFL stats back then.

Anyways, my 2 cents...
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#13 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2008 5:17:16 PM(UTC)
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And for Johnny U. Well, did you know he was a THREE TIME MVP? Not just Brett Favre as the media says.


Wow after doing a little research, you are right. Johnny Unites won the AP MVP award in 1959, 1964, and 1967, yet on Brett's wikipedia page it says Favre is the only 3 time AP MVP. This deserves its own thread. How has the media got it wrong all these years? Even on packers.com it says Favre is the only 3 time AP MVP. WTF?

http://www.packers.com/team/players/favre_brett/


I can't find it right now, but this discussion happened a few weeks ago and we found out that JU only got the AP MVP twice (64, 67) but received the UPI MVP '59, not the AP. As much as I love Wikipedia... it's wrong.
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#14 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2008 11:32:44 PM(UTC)
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Not sure but a lot of records are considered only post merger. I could be wrong but Jim Brown might of won 3 too but maybe not. Too lazy to check it. As for the Favre Namath comparison I think it's more fair to compare Favre and Montana. Both still elite QB's being pushed out by a new young gun
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