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#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:58:56 PM(UTC)
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With an unproven rookie like Tim Tebow charging $160 for the privilege of having his signature placed on the item of your choice, a guy like Brett Favre easily can charge that much, and more.

And so he is.

A group called Radtke Sports is marketing a one-day signing event with Favre, via Brad Biggs of NFP. On July 15, he'll sign 100 items. But there will be no event at which Favre will shake hands and/or smile for the camera. Instead, all items must be sent in advance, with payment up front.

And if your item isn't one of the first 100 items received, you'll be S.O.L. Or, more accurately, S.O.F. (But at least you'll get your money back.)

The charge is $400 for a full-size helmet, $400 for a jersey, $250 for a football, $175 for a mini-helmet, large photos for $250, smaller photos for $175.

Inscriptions will cost an extra $100. ("Dear Joe, with your money, I'll be buying new tires for my tractor.")

Frankly, we think Brett should do more than 100 items. That way, he'll be able to add hand carpal tunnel syndrome to his 2010 list of built-in excuses in the event of failure.



C'mon, $400? I thought $160 for Tebow was about 140 too high.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:42:03 PM(UTC)
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Free market, my friend. If people are dumb enough to pay that much for an autograph, more power to them. It's a little crazy, though: Brett Favre has made in excess of $250 million in his career, and he needs to charge for autographs?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:02:16 PM(UTC)
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Gotta pay for ankle surgery somehow.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:08:37 PM(UTC)
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Charging for autographs is stupid, period. All these athletes are bozos, and once again, that's why I'd rather see them and not hear them. The less I know about their personal lives, the better.

JFC, you don't see rock stars charging for autographs. (Yet).
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:11:56 PM(UTC)
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Maybe you can start the trend when you hit the big time, Zombieslayer.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:42:38 PM(UTC)
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Color me disinterested... I could give a crap less if some people are willing to fork over 400 dollars for the honor of his John Henry.. more power to those that can milk that cash for something that will be meaningless by such an impersonal way to get something signed.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:45:19 PM(UTC)
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People SELLING the autographs I believe are reason why signers require such a price for their ink.

I prefer the days when you had an autograph for the sake of HAVING the autograph, not for financial profit.

No signature is worth $400 to me, not Barry, not Brett, not even Earnhardt. I would jump at the chance to have them sign something, in person. I don't care if anyone believed me that it was real or not, I would know.

I'll stop before I continue on a rant on how money has ruined the Card collecting industry ...
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:56:14 PM(UTC)
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Eh. Who cares? I mean besides Florio the toolio.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:58:26 PM(UTC)
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Zero hit the nail on the head, these players are charging for doing this because people will turn around and throw those autographs on EBAY. The good old days of getting autographs for pleasure are gone, Its all about the green and I'm not talking about the players.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:16:50 PM(UTC)
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. They felt so bad for the fans that had to pay for their autographs from some random guy on the internet, that they made them pay ridiculous amounts of money themselfs. Because they care about their fans.

Obviously the athletes want a stake in this. They want the money, or they wouldn't be doing this.

And $400,- isn't something someone would give up for a jersey signed by Favre. If he really wants to do this to stop people from re-selling them, let them pay $50, max.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:02:28 AM(UTC)
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I don't recall about too many others, but Brett didn't like others making money off his name. He said something about it being wrong. I don't remember the full context of it, but that was his beef with it. He mentioned he loved giving his autograph to anyone who wanted it because it was Brett Favre's autograph. Those who wanted it because they could sell it, he didn't care for them. His issue was ... how can you tell the difference?

Enter the enormous amounts to pay for it...
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#12 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:08:36 AM(UTC)
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. They felt so bad for the fans that had to pay for their autographs from some random guy on the internet, that they made them pay ridiculous amounts of money themselfs. Because they care about their fans.

Obviously the athletes want a stake in this. They want the money, or they wouldn't be doing this.

And $400,- isn't something someone would give up for a jersey signed by Favre. If he really wants to do this to stop people from re-selling them, let them pay $50, max.


The resale of those items are way better if the original person paid $50 than if they were to pay $400. Capitalism. If someone wants to resell an autograph for $50, it'll be hella easier than if they paid $400.. The $50 Hancock is much more profitable. No matter who it is.. if you paid $400 for the autograph and wanted to resell it, your chances of making any sort of decent money off it is pretty low.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:17:54 AM(UTC)
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. They felt so bad for the fans that had to pay for their autographs from some random guy on the internet, that they made them pay ridiculous amounts of money themselfs. Because they care about their fans.

Obviously the athletes want a stake in this. They want the money, or they wouldn't be doing this.

And $400,- isn't something someone would give up for a jersey signed by Favre. If he really wants to do this to stop people from re-selling them, let them pay $50, max.


The resale of those items are way better if the original person paid $50 than if they were to pay $400. Capitalism. If someone wants to resell an autograph for $50, it'll be hella easier than if they paid $400.. The $50 Hancock is much more profitable. No matter who it is.. if you paid $400 for the autograph and wanted to resell it, your chances of making any sort of decent money off it is pretty low.


I think that's what I was saying. You have to pay so much for it already, chances of turning a profit are limited.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:51:45 AM(UTC)
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. They felt so bad for the fans that had to pay for their autographs from some random guy on the internet, that they made them pay ridiculous amounts of money themselfs. Because they care about their fans.

Obviously the athletes want a stake in this. They want the money, or they wouldn't be doing this.

And $400,- isn't something someone would give up for a jersey signed by Favre. If he really wants to do this to stop people from re-selling them, let them pay $50, max.


The resale of those items are way better if the original person paid $50 than if they were to pay $400. Capitalism. If someone wants to resell an autograph for $50, it'll be hella easier than if they paid $400.. The $50 Hancock is much more profitable. No matter who it is.. if you paid $400 for the autograph and wanted to resell it, your chances of making any sort of decent money off it is pretty low.


I think that's what I was saying. You have to pay so much for it already, chances of turning a profit are limited.


Yup. We agreed.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:58:26 AM(UTC)
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I think it's bull. Sterling Sharpe comes to mind. He refused to sign anything and I later found out it was because he didn't want it being sold to the highest bidder. I remember finally catching up to him when I was I think 10 and asked "Mr Sharpe, Mr Sharpe!!! can you sign this please??" his response was he couldn't cuz his hands were full. One hand he had his helmet through his shoulder pads and his other hand had his cleats and something else. I of course offered to carry anything for him and he just smiled and continued walking at a brisk pace.

This was shortly before I learned of the greatness that is Barry Sanders, so Sharpe and Majik were hands down my most favorite athletes ... as I would have said it then 'in the whole wide world!'.

I still remember the devastation I felt. After trying so many times to get close enough to him to ask, I finally got there and was rejected.

I blamed Sterling at first, but as I got older I realized why and stubbornly understood. Which is partially why I dislike money so much, I strongly feel it ruins the true 'value' of things that should not have a price tag. Such as, autographs. It would have meant the world to me as a 10 year told to have his ink on my purple bordered '89 Score supplemental card of his.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:42:38 PM(UTC)
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Why the huge disparity in price based on what the autograph is written on?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:19:16 PM(UTC)
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If they don't want things resold on eBay, they could mark them with some insignia of authenticity (say, a serial number) and keep records of the signings. That way if things turned up on resale venues like eBay, they could go after the original recipient for violation of whatever terms they decided to impose.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:23:07 PM(UTC)
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Why the huge disparity in price based on what the autograph is written on?


Certain items hold a higher value on being sold than others. A signed napkin is going to get you less than a signed football cleat.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:37:12 PM(UTC)
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I don't recall about too many others, but Brett didn't like others making money off his name. He said something about it being wrong. I don't remember the full context of it, but that was his beef with it. He mentioned he loved giving his autograph to anyone who wanted it because it was Brett Favre's autograph. Those who wanted it because they could sell it, he didn't care for them. His issue was ... how can you tell the difference?

Enter the enormous amounts to pay for it...


Good post.

I am sure this does piss off people like Brett. HOWEVER. The answer is very simple. DO NOT SIGN AN AUTOGRAPH unless it is personalized.

In other words ask the person who is asking for the autograph for their name and sign it "To Joe"

The fan gets a cool autograph... And it is not re-saleable to anyone other than a person named Joe.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:34:12 PM(UTC)
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well, all i care about my brett favre items now (all signed) is the money i can get in about 20 years, especially for the classic minihelmets
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#21 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:13:24 PM(UTC)
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Isn't the market flooded with fake signed articles of memorabilia, anyway? Who's to know whether Brett Favre really signed a jersey, or if some imposter just signed his name? Charging x amount for it won't stop the resale of unauthenticated items anyway (assuming that none of these signing days give a certificate of authenticity, then it's very difficult to tell between a good fake and these real signed pieces), means that the argument that charging a greater amount of money will stop people from reselling at a later date is ill-conceived, as it only provides a greater incentive to defraud a customer through fake signatures, since ostensibly a signed Favre piece of memorabilia will be priced up according to the 'cost' of acquiring such articles.

It all stinks in my opinion, from the profiteering by those who received and resell signed merchandise to Favre's motives.
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#22 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:14:03 PM(UTC)
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even though he has pissed me off beyond words the last couple years, i will never EVER sell my dad's autographed favre football nor will i ever get rid of the personal letter favre sent my dad. some things truly are sacred.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:22:09 PM(UTC)
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My Favre stuff is where it was when he retired a Packer. In a box in my closet. I don't foresee that changing unless he publicly insults the Packers fans. Then I'd consider burning it or something.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:31:37 PM(UTC)
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Color me disinterested... I could give a crap less if some people are willing to fork over 400 dollars for the honor of his John Henry.. more power to those that can milk that cash for something that will be meaningless by such an impersonal way to get something signed.


Of course if you did, that would make you a real toolio. (Since a "John Henry" is a a hammer, unlike a John Hancock, which is a signature.)

On a less pedantic note, I agree completely. I remember when I got Bart Starr's autograph, it was the coolest thing. But it was cool not because I got the signature on something, or because I could sell it later for dough, but because I was a little kid, because it was after a football game, and because I got within a foot or so of my idol and he said hi.

If people want to spend their money on such stuff, well, hey, it's their money. And since I've spent enough money on silly stuff in my life, who am I to talk? After all, what's dumber, the $400 autographed helmet in Packer bedroom shrine, or the $400 replica Sword of Charlemagne that hangs in my living room?
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#25 Posted : Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:41:04 PM(UTC)
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anyone want Aaron Rodgers autograph? I can get it done for cheap and its the real deal.





Of course it is from a wind tech but his name is spelled the same exact way lol
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