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Offline Pack93z  
#101 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:10:13 PM(UTC)
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After all the evidence of the past couple years.. especially in regards to Favre.. the media types report first on the hints of a possible event and then after they claim they were first.. start to validate that there is any truth to their spun version of the story.

And the funny part is we or most fall for it hook, line and sinker time after time. It isn't just ESPN.. it is all these damn journalists that seem centered on being first more than being right.
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#102 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:13:42 PM(UTC)
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the guy wondering why it matters has the most post on the subject lol
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#103 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:19:23 PM(UTC)
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My gut reaction -- Favre had decided that he was coming back several weeks ago, but was using ankle as an easy out for skipping camps. But then the ankle refused to recover as he had hoped and he got discouraged/worried enough that he was going to have to change his mind. But he didnt want to have to call everyone so he sent some texts.
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#104 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:21:43 PM(UTC)
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the guy wondering why it matters has the most post on the subject lol


I am a self described Favre Lover. So obviously I am going to follow his moves in the off season and defend him when people are calling him a liar, etc. But for Packers fans that are apprently "so over Favre", the obsession level with him is unbelievable. There are probably more posts about Text-Gate (texts that may or may not have happened) than there has been on the Packers periods all off season.

Why this big need to discredit him or whatever, Packers have a great QB in Aaron Rodgers, move on if you don't like Favre. But as long as people are going to bring him up and talk about him, I am going to discuss but at the same time I am not going to pretend that I am "so over Favre".

"Oh man I'm so glad that I'm not a Vikings fan and we don't have to deal with this Favre stuff anymore". What? We are all obsessed with his every move on this board. I would guess that Packers fans care more about Favre's every move than Vikings fans do, they seem to have the logical strategy of "waiting and seeing" until they hear from Favre or the Vikings about him retiring.
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#105 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:23:01 PM(UTC)
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After all the evidence of the past couple years.. especially in regards to Favre.. the media types report first on the hints of a possible event and then after they claim they were first.. start to validate that there is any truth to their spun version of the story.

And the funny part is we or most fall for it hook, line and sinker time after time. It isn't just ESPN.. it is all these damn journalists that seem centered on being first more than being right.


Exactly! EVERYONE falls for it. But why do Favre-related stories not have to involve journalistic integrity. Thats what I do not understand.
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#106 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:32:12 PM(UTC)
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Because journalism as we traditionalists think of it is essentially dead. What now passes for news is now little more than rumormongering , because it's cheap (all you need to do is cruise the Twitter feeds), and there's nothing to be held accountable for, since you're dealing only in possibilities. Almost no one spends money on investigative journalism anymore. Why should they? They can amass their ratings at almost zero cost nowadays.
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#107 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:38:29 PM(UTC)
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Brett, I can't quit you!
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#108 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:40:27 PM(UTC)
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Beyond Peter King, there is literally no national beat writers I faithfully read.. he seems more content to post full out complete thoughts or opinions than being first to the press.. and even he, by his contact to Brett got caught up in this, the true, never ending story.

The Brett ever shifting quagmire of a story is compounded by Brett's indecisive nature make it a free for all.
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#109 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:56:03 PM(UTC)
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A carefully crafted mythos has long surrounded the news. It was always first and foremost about entertainment, of course, but we we told ourselves that we watched and read the news to be informed, and the news providers assured us that was what they were doing. We told ourselves that journalists were fair, objective, and balanced, and they assured us they were.

Of course, all of this was a collective fantasy, as even some of the old-timers themselves have admitted in recent years. Journalists were always obsessed with getting "the scoop," but information moved slower then, so they had the luxury of taking time to check up on their hot tip before someone else scooped them. Nowadays, with our mind-boggling array of information portals, information can be disseminated so rapidly and so abundantly that we seem to place less value in information. Therefore, if it turns out that a juicy tidbit is false, it's so easy and quick to distribute the correction widely that we don't seem to care nearly as much when journalists are wrong these days. Because the ramifications for screwing up are so much less severe than they used to be, news rooms put much less effort into fact-checking and corroborating sources; indeed, even the largest networks have drastically reduced the staffing in their newsrooms over the past decade.

The end result is that the reporter is a dying breed. There's no such thing as a factual, informative article anymore. Everyone is an "analyst" these days, which is a polite industry term for "essayist." It's a rare article indeed in which the author doesn't insert some obviously slanted commentary. What's most amazing to me is that personal opinions are rife even in articles without by-lines! What's the point of interjecting one's own ideas in an anonymous article? But it happens constantly.
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Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.


Nope. He'll sit out the first four weeks and then come in. I'm calling it now, which means he'll probably retire because Favre is the most unpredictable athlete of all time.

Seriously, I think that's the best thing for everyone involved. Sit him and let him heal. Why would you want Favre to go up against a dirty team like New Orleans? Yes, I said dirty. Who cares if you lose a road game against the defending champs. You get Favre back after a 1-2 start and there is no reason why you can't go 10-3 the rest of the way. That gets you in the playoffs for a run.

The biggest thing here is whether or not Favre's ankle responds even in that time span and whether or not his ego will let him miss a couple of games.


Calling the Saints a dirty team is like calling that man in your signature a bigot. It may be technically true because you can point to a few instances, but they're/he's good enough that it doesn't matter.


See dirty has become a bad word in football terms. I don't think it's a bad thing all the time. I think when you're that close, you do whatever it takes. I actually respect that. But they took cheap shots. No other way around that and I think they'll take em again in the opener.
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