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#61 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:30:17 AM(UTC)
I left my wand in the closet today.
#62 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:31:09 AM(UTC)
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I left my wand in the closet today.

#63 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:31:46 AM(UTC)
I am truly sorry you have experience with being in the closet, my friend.
#64 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:32:54 AM(UTC)
I do wonder how many interceptions and fumbles he is allowed before he is benched. Teams aren't going to be giving him all day this season. He is going to be harried, hurried, hustled, and hit.
#65 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:34:22 AM(UTC)
I hope so.
I want him and the Vikings going down in flames.
Like i want every year! LOL!
#66 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:35:49 AM(UTC)
Non....you need to follow up that last line with........"BAZINGA!!!"
#67 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:39:34 AM(UTC)
March 4th, 2008

(His agent and brother have hinted he wasn't wanted enough. Did you feel you did enough to communicate you wanted him back?)

Thompson: I certainly do. Mike and I, our approach was the same as it was last year at this time. The year before, when Mike was the new coach here, we took a little different approach because we kind of needed to introduce ourselves a little bit more. But last year was the same. Mike kind of stayed in constant contact, and I would make sure I stayed in touch from time to time, but we felt like, in each of those years it was important for Brett to make this decision for Brett, not to be badgered. He doesn't want to be talked into doing something one way or the other. He wants to know, like I say, can I still play and do you want me? Yes and yes. After that he has to make the decision beyond that. But we felt like the communication lines were open, and we felt like we gave him enough space to be able to make the right decision for him.

(Given the void he leaves, how do you not allow yourselves to lobby him? Was there some temptation to convince him otherwise?)

Thompson: If I might take part of that one. This man is 38 years old. He's been playing in a very difficult environment for 17 years. He understands that we know that he can play. He understands that he's our guy, for want of a better word. He has to make that decision. Those are his hours that he has to spend worrying about this or concerned about this, the preparation, all the things that lead up to it. The three hours of the game, I think he's fine with. And I'm not saying he wouldn't do the other stuff, it's just that after a while it takes a toll, and based on my conversation with him and Mike's conversation with him, he feels like that's enough pain of the toll. That's just the way it was relayed to me. So for me to be presumptuous enough to talk a grown man into making a life-changing decision that he's already made is wrong
#68 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:40:50 AM(UTC)
Thank you very much.
#69 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:49:54 AM(UTC)
If he has to be begged into coming back (which seems it's what his ego needs) then he's just playing games with the (insert which team name he's jerking around at the moment) and should walk away with at least a LITTLE dignity.
If that's even possible at this point.
#70 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:58:26 AM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.
Catch the second one?
#71 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:59:31 AM(UTC)
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I do wonder how many interceptions and fumbles he is allowed before he is benched. Teams aren't going to be giving him all day this season. He is going to be harried, hurried, hustled, and hit.

If only it were that easy. That's the goal of every defense and not many can succeed. :( Including ours.
#72 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:37:50 AM(UTC)
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Actually, I don't think teams will get away with the strategy the Saints used in the Super Bowl. I think they'll get flagged if they do (and IMO should). Especially early in the season.

A lot of things get let go in the SuperBowl that don't get let go in the regular season. And while this may be a bit of a conspiracy theory, I think the Saints got away with a bit extra because of the "making history" PR line (first ever super bowl, post-katrina, etc).

Beating the crap of Favre has been tried many times. What was different about the Saints is they were willing to flirt with crossing the line (if not outright ignoring it) a lot more. I don't think that is going to be replicable, especially with the "icon" thing operating, in the regular season.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on this: if the Saints "go after Favre" in week 1 the way they did in the championship game and the way they went after Manning in the Superbowl, they'll get flagged early and often.

See, what ever happened to protecting your teammates? Honestly, if I see guys on another team going after my quarterback the way they did, there wouldnt' be anything to stop me from doing something crazy. If im on defense, i'm taking out YOUR quarterback. If i'm on the offense, I'm gonna give that guy a crack back at his knees or rip his helmet off and F&*% him up big time. Theres no way i'd let that stuff go. I guess the Vikings are full of fumblers and gutless purple pansies.

yup makes sense...Then that player gets ejected in the NFL Championship game...but its okay cuz the Saints know not to mess with Brett NEXT year
#73 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:30:42 AM(UTC)
Question to all vikings fans

how many Superbowl trophies do you currently have?
#74 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:14:34 PM(UTC)
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Question to all vikings fans

how many Superbowl trophies do you currently have?

C'mon, we as Packers fans can do better than that. Heck we haven't won in 15 or so years. That'll change soon though.

I think the better question is what did Brett give you that Tavaris didn't the year prior?

From my understanding, it was one win in the post season and two wins in the regular season and a lot of personal stat padding for Brett.

Then again, here we are talking about our rival ... that has to count for something.
#75 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:27:22 PM(UTC)

[img_r]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0124/nfl_u_favre14_576.jpg[/img_r]EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- In his 19th NFL season, and his 40th on this earth, Brett Favre produced the best season of what was already a Hall of Fame career. As the bizarre nature of FavreWatch 2010 fades into history, now is the time to ask a quite reasonable question:

How can he possibly top 2009?

I wonder if that issue wasn't high on Favre's list as he mulled a return. Can he come anywhere close to duplicating a 33-7 touchdown-interception ratio? Will he complete 68.4 percent of his passes again? Will defenses once again be caught off guard by his chemistry with receivers Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin, along with tight end Visanthe Shiancoe?

From my vantage point, there is only one way to judge Favre's 2010 season. It won't be whether he throws 35 touchdowns or passes for 4,500 yards or sets an NFL record for passer rating. We saw what he was capable of last season.

There's only one reason for the Vikings to go through the rigmarole it took to get Favre back to Minnesota. I can think of only one way that his 20th season will be judged a success.

[+] EnlargeBrett Favre
AP Photo/Paul SancyaBrett Favre threw for 4,202 yards, with 33 touchdowns and just seven interceptions last season.
For that, I hand it to former Vikings receiver Randy Moss, circa 2000.

"Super Bowl, homeboy."

That was the goal Moss set after signing a record contract extension 10 years ago. Favre and the Vikings must be thinking the same thing.

This year's Super Bowl is the reason you pass on an opportunity to acquire Donovan McNabb.

This year's Super Bowl is why you use your draft on players who can help you in 2010, not a quarterback who might start in 2013.

This year's Super Bowl is why the coach spends the night at Favre's mansion a week before training camp, willingly revealing what has been transfer of power from coach to player.

This year's Super Bowl is why three prominent players were dispatched in an unprecedented attempt to beg Favre into playing one more year -- for their sakes, if not his.

Anything short of a Super Bowl title would render these unparalleled detours a waste of time. If the Vikings miss the Super Bowl in Favre's second year, they'll be left with an aging team that allowed another season to pass without finding a long-term solution at quarterback.

I'm on record suggesting the Vikings, even with Favre, will have a tough go in the NFC North even with Favre. The Green Bay Packers are much improved over the team that Minnesota defeated twice last season. And it's certainly fair to wonder if 2009 wasn't a magical, one-time collection of events for the Vikings and Favre, one that landed an overtime loss away from the Super Bowl but is highly unlikely to be repeated.

Count former New England Patriots linebacker Tedy Bruschi, now an ESPN analyst, in that group. Bruschi said Tuesday on ESPN's NFL Live that "I don't think he can do it again" because of weaknesses exposed by the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game.

"I think there's a huge problem there," Bruschi said. "I think the New Orleans Saints' defense provided a blueprint on how to get to Brett Favre. You show blitz packages from the right, from the left, all over the place. You get to him. You hit him when he has the ball. You hit him when he doesn't have the ball.

"I don't think Brett Favre can last this season with that ankle. He's going to be 41 years old. The ankle is bothering him right now, of course."

History tells us Favre is more likely to last the season than not. He hasn't missed a game since 1992. But Bruschi is right about the Vikings' pass protection issues in that game, and don't think for a second that their 2010 opponents haven't watched the video.

And then there is the issue of Favre's clear ambivalence about playing this season. The Vikings were so worried about his frame of mind that they felt compelled to send three of their top veterans to recruit him. You wonder where they thought Favre's mind was before the visit. Bruschi wondered the same thing.

"And if it took begging," Bruschi said. "If it took three of the most respected teammates and members of that Minnesota Vikings team to go down there and beg him to come back, to twist his arm, I've lost respect for this team.

"If you want him so bad and he doesn't want you, and you've got to go down and beg for someone to come back, then you don't have faith in your football team. You only have faith in one person."

For the most part, I think Vikings players breathed a sigh of relief Tuesday. Backup Tarvaris Jackson is a nice guy and has been a professional throughout FavreWatch, but there aren't many people in the organization who believe he could win a Super Bowl.

Favre still can. That's why he arrived Tuesday in Minnesota, and that's the only way to judge his 2010 season.
#76 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:27:31 PM(UTC)
I don't blame the Vikings for begging Favre to come back, given their other options at QB.

That said, make no mistake about it, Favre has mental issues. I've never seen an athlete that needed as much coddling as he does.

I'm glad the Packers were in a situation in 2008, where they could tell Favre to get fucked. And even though Ted knew we had Rodgers to fall back on, he was still unproven. So to make that decision took balls; elephant size balls. You've gotta respect that.
#77 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:48:16 PM(UTC)
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I'm on record suggesting the Vikings, even with Favre, will have a tough go in the NFC North even with Favre.

Redundant sentence is redundant. ;)

I think this article echoes what a lot of us believe about this issue. Last year was a rare confluence of events that isn't likely to be duplicated. I think he should have hung up the cleats after last year. He took a team to the NFC Championship two out of the last three years. What more does he have to prove?
#78 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:01:00 PM(UTC)
Actually, the fact that they sent three instead of two or four is significant.

Here's what really happened:

Favre calls Allen:
Hey, dude, it's been too long since we've played golf. You gotta see this new course down here in Hattiesburg.
Allen: Shit, man, I"m in the midst of this training camp shit. Unlike you, you lucky bastard, I don't get to skip the shit.
Favre: Here's what we do. First you call be out a bit, say, tell those reporter schmucks that I need to report by such and such a day. Then a couple days later, you go to Zygi or Brad or whoever, and tell them that you've got a plan to get me back into camp.

Allen: They'll never go for it. They'll think I"m trying to get out of work and do one of my weird mullet-headed things (even though I don't have the mullet anymore).

Favre: Then you suggest that Hutch and Longwell come, too. Ain't an OL alive that doesn't want to rest during training camp. And kickers...well, you know Longwell's even crazier about golf than we are.



Hutchinson: God damn it, Longwell. You beat us again. I still can't believe you made that shot on 16.
Allen: Maybe we can drag this out another day. Play another round first thing tomorrow morning before we fly back.
Favre: No. Won't work. We already scheduled the press conference for tomorrow. Get in ithe plane, Jared.

#79 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:23:02 PM(UTC)
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I do wonder how many interceptions and fumbles he is allowed before he is benched. Teams aren't going to be giving him all day this season. He is going to be harried, hurried, hustled, and hit.

And then they hand the ball off to arguably the best back in the league and watch him run all day against us.

I predict you see AP come close to 1800 yards this year and another 700 receiving because the defense will be set to stop the pass.
#80 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:32:47 PM(UTC)
:physassult: Now once again boy QB does his six year old act and returns to MN. One has to wonder just how pleased the other QB's must be after suffering through OTA's and some pre-season camp to watch the dilletante return and prance about. Brett has long ago wasted whatever respect I ever had for him.
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