Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I can't remember his name, but one of the newly elected freshmen Senators is urging airports to jettison their TSA staff and hire private security. Apparently federal law permits airports to do just that. I like the idea. Rather than having security protocols centralized, privatizing security would allow airports to tailor security procedures to the threats they actually face. It would also introduce some competition into the market, which might improve customer treatment.

Amid airport anger, GOP takes aim at screening 
By: BYRON YORK
Chief Political Correspondent
November 15, 2010

TSA Transportation Security Officers, in blue uniforms, screen airline passenger as they check-in at Washington's Ronald Reagan National Airport, Monday, Nov. 15, 2010. U.S. officials are defending new anti-terrorism security procedures at the nation's airports that some travelers complain are overly invasive and intimate. (Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP)
Did you know that the nation's airports are not required to have Transportation Security Administration screeners checking passengers at security checkpoints? The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program in favor of private screeners after a two-year period. Now, with the TSA engulfed in controversy and hated by millions of weary and sometimes humiliated travelers, Rep. John Mica, the Republican who will soon be chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, is reminding airports that they have a choice.

Mica, one of the authors of the original TSA bill, has recently written to the heads of more than 150 airports nationwide suggesting they opt out of TSA screening. "When the TSA was established, it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees," Mica writes. "As TSA has grown larger, more impersonal, and administratively top-heavy, I believe it is important that airports across the country consider utilizing the opt-out provision provided by law."

In addition to being large, impersonal, and top-heavy, what really worries critics is that the TSA has become dangerously ineffective. Its specialty is what those critics call "security theater" -- that is, a show of what appear to be stringent security measures designed to make passengers feel more secure without providing real security. "That's exactly what it is," says Mica. "It's a big Kabuki dance."

Now, the dance has gotten completely out of hand. And like lots of fliers -- I spoke to him as he waited for a flight at the Orlando airport -- Mica sees TSA's new "naked scanner" machines and groping, grossly invasive passenger pat-downs as just part of a larger problem. TSA, he says, is relying more on passenger humiliation than on practices that are proven staples of airport security.

For example, many security experts have urged TSA to adopt techniques, used with great success by the Israeli airline El Al, in which passengers are observed, profiled, and most importantly, questioned before boarding planes. So TSA created a program known as SPOT -- Screening of Passengers by Observation Techniques. It began hiring what it called behavior detection officers, who would be trained to notice passengers who acted suspiciously. TSA now employs about 3,000 behavior detection officers, stationed at about 160 airports across the country.

The problem is, they're doing it all wrong. A recent Government Accountability Office study found that TSA "deployed SPOT nationwide without first validating the scientific basis for identifying suspicious passengers in an airport environment." They haven't settled on the standards needed to stop bad actors.

"It's not an Israeli model, it's a TSA, screwed-up model," says Mica. "It should actually be the person who's looking at the ticket and talking to the individual. Instead, they've hired people to stand around and observe, which is a bastardization of what should be done."

In a May 2010 letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Mica noted that the GAO "discovered that since the program's inception, at least 17 known terrorists ... have flown on 24 different occasions, passing through security at eight SPOT airports." One of those known terrorists was Faisal Shahzad, who made it past SPOT monitors onto a Dubai-bound plane at New York's JFK International Airport not long after trying to set off a car bomb in Times Square. Federal agents nabbed him just before departure.

Mica and other critics in Congress want to see quick and meaningful changes in the way TSA works. They go back to the days just after Sept. 11, when there was a hot debate about whether the new passenger-screening force would be federal employees, as most Democrats wanted, or private contractors, as most Republicans wanted. Democrats won and TSA has been growing ever since.

But the law did allow a test program in which five airports were allowed to use private contractors. A number of studies done since then have shown that contractors perform a bit better than federal screeners, and they're also more flexible and open to innovation. (The federal government pays the cost of screening whether performed by the TSA or by contractors, and contractors work under federal supervision.)

TSA critics know a federal-to-private change won't solve all of the problems with airport security. But it might create the conditions under which some of those problems could indeed be fixed. With passenger anger overflowing and new leadership in the House, something might finally get done.

Byron York, The Examiner's chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blogposts appear on ExaminerPolitics.com.



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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Kudos, and hope he has some success (although he won't).

People aren't getting my point. This needs to be privatized, NOT federal. I'm not implying we don't need security whatsoever. It's amazing what people read into what I say.

I stated some facts that Cancer EXPERTS have found that these scanners are a cancer threat and apparently since the letter was April 2010, it was outdated. So, I guess fire is no longer dangerous because we found that out tens of thousands of years ago. I also love how I provide facts and other people reply with opinions and no links.

Feds can't do anything right. Instead, they're a threat to business and an annoyance to travelers. And they're a gross violation of the 4th Amendment. But then again, the Bill of Rights was written in the 1700s so who needs it today, right? Let's become a Federal police state. After all, that would be much safer.

"When the TSA was established, it was never envisioned that it would become a huge, unwieldy bureaucracy which was soon to grow to 67,000 employees," Mica writes.



67k employees? Anyone willing to guess just how much of our tax dollars these 67k employees cost? Anyone?

And people complain about the debt. Guess what, folks. If you keep spending on stupid shit like this, the debt is only going to get bigger. Privatize it all, folks. Private will be much more efficient, much FASTER, and less INTRUSIVE, and save us money.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

I can't remember his name, but one of the newly elected freshmen Senators is urging airports to jettison their TSA staff and hire private security. Apparently federal law permits airports to do just that. I like the idea. Rather than having security protocols centralized, privatizing security would allow airports to tailor security procedures to the threats they actually face. It would also introduce some competition into the market, which might improve customer treatment.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Have you ever dealt with private security firms?

Want to talk about the dregs of the workforce, be careful what you wish for.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did we not have private security in the airports before 9/11? I thought they were much more friendlier, more efficient, and just as safe. I didn't mind flying back then. I won't fly now as these guys are rude a-holes and we're NOT safer, despite them being rude a-holes (and nearly retarded).
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

And people complain about the debt. Guess what, folks. If you keep spending on stupid shit like this, the debt is only going to get bigger. Privatize it all, folks. Private will be much more efficient, much FASTER, and less INTRUSIVE, and save us money.

"zombieslayer" wrote:




If it's not our tax dollars paying for it, then we pay for it on our flight tickets. Either way, we'll end up paying for it.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

And people complain about the debt. Guess what, folks. If you keep spending on stupid shit like this, the debt is only going to get bigger. Privatize it all, folks. Private will be much more efficient, much FASTER, and less INTRUSIVE, and save us money.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




If it's not our tax dollars paying for it, then we pay for it on our flight tickets. Either way, we'll end up paying for it.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I'm fine with that, because if you stay at home or drive, you won't be paying for it. You're only paying for it when you're using their services.

I'm not fine with paying for something that you won't be necessarily using. Big difference.
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Formo
13 years ago

I can't remember his name, but one of the newly elected freshmen Senators is urging airports to jettison their TSA staff and hire private security. Apparently federal law permits airports to do just that. I like the idea. Rather than having security protocols centralized, privatizing security would allow airports to tailor security procedures to the threats they actually face. It would also introduce some competition into the market, which might improve customer treatment.

"pack93z" wrote:



Have you ever dealt with private security firms?

Want to talk about the dregs of the workforce, be careful what you wish for.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Nice broad sweeping comment of generalization.

I happen to know a guy who ran / runs a private security firm. His employees were trained like Special Forces, and he is one of the most honorable guys I happen to know.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

I can't remember his name, but one of the newly elected freshmen Senators is urging airports to jettison their TSA staff and hire private security. Apparently federal law permits airports to do just that. I like the idea. Rather than having security protocols centralized, privatizing security would allow airports to tailor security procedures to the threats they actually face. It would also introduce some competition into the market, which might improve customer treatment.

"Formo" wrote:



Have you ever dealt with private security firms?

Want to talk about the dregs of the workforce, be careful what you wish for.

"pack93z" wrote:



Nice broad sweeping comment of generalization.

I happen to know a guy who ran / runs a private security firm. His employees were trained like Special Forces, and he is one of the most honorable guys I happen to know.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Fair enough.. guilty as charged. Same holds true for the TSA agents themselves.
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4PackGirl
13 years ago
you talked about the cost, the losing of your rights, the radiation poisoning, you clear hatred for tsa employees but i don't recall you saying point blank...i think we need security just not by federal employees.

so now I'M confused - is it bad period or is it only bad cuz the gov't is doing it? if it becomes privatized don't these above mentioned 'problems' still exist?

i don't get it but again i'm sicker than i've been in ages. forgive me if i'm missing something, zombie. 🙂
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13 years ago

I can't remember his name, but one of the newly elected freshmen Senators is urging airports to jettison their TSA staff and hire private security. Apparently federal law permits airports to do just that. I like the idea. Rather than having security protocols centralized, privatizing security would allow airports to tailor security procedures to the threats they actually face. It would also introduce some competition into the market, which might improve customer treatment.

"pack93z" wrote:



Have you ever dealt with private security firms?

Want to talk about the dregs of the workforce, be careful what you wish for.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



For some reason, this word made me think of this song....and now I can't get it out of my mind. Argh.


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