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porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

Starr is one of my all time favorite. But Unitas was quite a bit better. Others may/probably were. Lombardi and the supporting cast made a huge difference.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

I'm sure you'd get arguments in Wisconsin with that statement, but Johnny U is pretty much the father of the modern day NFL quarterbacking. He is the best of that era in my view as well.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#22

Starr had a 80.5 career rating and a 104.8 post season rating. Unitas had a 78.2 career and a 68.9 post.

Few stepped up their game in the post season like Starr did. When it matters most.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

I'm not questioning Starr shinning in post season, but using regular season games vs post season games really isn't accurate. They say the post season is a whole new season in itself. It takes a lot of consistency to maintain a high QB rating through a 12 14 or 16 game season than it does 2 or 4 post season games.

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#23

Don't forget that Starr outshines them all in terms of overall coolness, too.

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#24

What part of Starr also had a higher regular-season QB rating than Unitas did people miss?

Kingkoopa
Registered Topic Starter

12 years ago

#25

I checked out some of the numbers. Starr played in 10 post season games in his career vs Unitas's 8, so it's not as if there is a huge discrepancy there.

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porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#26

QB rating is one of many variables. It is not the only variable. If you think it is, then I would hope you’re consistent with it. Clearly, Phillip Rivers of the last three seasons is a better QB than Brett Favre during his MVP seasons. His QB rating is superior in each year. If you feel that way, all the power to you.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#27

Numbers don't tell the story. Unitas was much better. Unitas was a better play caller, remember QB called their own plays at that time, although I think Starr rivaled him at the end of his career. Unitas was also a much better passer. The main difference was Lombardi and the teams he developed. In fact, Lombardi tried to trade Starr for Don Meredith. He offered a first round pick and any Packer except Hornung or Gregg. Gregg he considered the best player he ever coached and he loved Hornung like a son. He would have traded Starr for Unitas in a heartbeat. If a poll of football people were taken Unitas would win in a landslide. The main reason the Colts even challenged the Packers in the 60's was Unitas again, without the supporting cast, primarily the running game. I don't mean this as any slam on Starr. He was outstanding and turned himself from a not so good QB into one of the greatest. He IS one of my all time favorite Packers and even more importantly he is one of my all time favorite people. God bless Bart Starr and the Packers

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