Is It Time to Start Jordy Nelson over Donald Driver?· Page 3

Pack93z
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12 years ago

Personally I think Cobb was brought aboard to improve the quality of the depth of the 5.. IMO.. Swain didn't develop into the return man many hoped for and I might be harsh here, but hasn't really improved to the point that he challenged any of the top 4 for playing time..

I think the Packers are looking for a 5th receiver than can be the solution for a return man (protecting Williams) and be a long term answer in the WR corp. I am not sold on Swain.

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Yerko
Senior Member

12 years ago

#22

It might be just I, but the way the Packers utilized the receivers last season, basically all guys could fill all slots, does it really matter whom gets the token award as a "starter"?

We as a society get way to hung up on labels.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Agreed, which is why I think it will be difficult for the Packers to give James Jones "starter money". We all know who the #1 wide receiver is and that is Greg Jennings. After that, its basically a mix and match type ordeal with the wide receivers. For all we know, Cobb can have an exceptional training camp and play a #2 role sometimes with the Packers.

Its nice as a fan to know your team has the options to do that.

Well put Z.

Nonstopdrivel
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12 years ago

#23

How is it an ordeal? It has never struck me as particularly agonizing.

beast
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12 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I agree with not being sold on Swain, but what team has 5 WRs that you are sold on?

And a 2nd round pick to improve the 5th WR spot? Not sure I can buy that as one of the main reasons they picked Cobb though yes he does do that.

I think they picked Cobb because they hope he can be a very good returner, and sometime be on of the top 3 WR on the team in the future.

Also because I think Mike McCarthy is expanding his offense still and is adding a couple more tricks, like last year we saw WR screens (though they mostly failed and I thought they were kind of draw up poorly... as they had Driver blocking for Jordy... when it probably should of been the other way around IMO)
Mike McCarthy talked about not having a good return guy and it being his fault for not getting them more involved with the offense. So I'm expecting a WR run, WR screen and just maybe a WR pass this year.

I always did want to see what Blackmon and his return skills could do on offense. Blackmon could of been great at a run reversed to him as a WR.

Pack93z
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12 years ago

#25

By a 5th Receiver, I am talking for this coming season.. hence the long term answer as a receiver. Meaning moving up into the top of the rotation so to speak.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

beast
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12 years ago

#26

By a 5th Receiver, I am talking for this coming season.. hence the long term answer as a receiver. Meaning moving up into the top of the rotation so to speak.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Alright my mistake, I was thinking 5th Receiver as they're going to resign Jones and going to keep the top 4 from last year and Cobb as the 5th.

Pack93z
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12 years ago

#27

Alright my mistake, I was thinking 5th Receiver as they're going to resign Jones and going to keep the top 4 from last year and Cobb as the 5th.

Originally Posted by: beast

Generally Receivers take a year or two to develop.. so thinking that Cobb is going to automatically assume heavy playing time past the special teams is being very optimistic.. especially in a very complex route system the Packers run.

Personally.. I think Jones is resigned, if the money stays realistic, and they do walk into camp with Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Swain and Cobb in a battle for 5 or maybe six spots top..

I like Cobb's abilities and I am excited to see him in a Packers uni.. but I expect him to make a couple plays here and there on the offense, but making a much bigger contribution in the return game. * Edit * "This Season"

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

beast
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12 years ago

#28

Personally.. I think Jones is resigned, if the money stays realistic, and they do walk into camp with Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Swain and Cobb in a battle for 5 or maybe six spots top..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I'm having trouble seeing 6 WRs with the TE group also having some pretty good talent... at TE we have Finley, Quarless, Crabree, Havner, Williams and Taylor

I even wonder if they might try only 4 WRs if they don't resign Jones (MM has done it once before with keeping 4 TEs.)

I also wondered how would Crabtree do at FB. I haven't seen him blocking on the move so I don't know, but he's not a big threat in the passing game other than when defenders assume he's going to block and he slips out for a route in the end zone (TOUCH DOWN) but FBs can do that as well.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#29

Our TEs are basically Hback hybrids.
Dunno if they'd bring JJ back, but either way, our offense is gonna be a POWERHOUSE for years to come.

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Rockmolder
Honored Member

12 years ago

#30

Our TEs are basically Hback hybrids.
Dunno if they'd bring JJ back, but either way, our offense is gonna be a POWERHOUSE for years to come.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Finley and Quarless are very much not H-backs.

They're a lot closer to WR/TE hybrids than they are to being H-backs.

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