Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I was reading Jason Wilde's blog  and noticed a blurb about the Packers running game.

I just think we can be smarter when we run the ball and how we run the ball. We do this every year. You have to be real critical of everything, whether it's the play selection, what we're asking each player to do as far as the type of scheme, whether it's a zone scheme, pattern schemes.

More creativity, less volume. That's something that is kind of our motto when it comes down to building offensive scheme and defensive scheme every year. Do we have too many runs in the game plan? That's something we're looking at. Are there things we can add, take out? Those types of things. But really, I think we can do a better job, per situation, running the football. That's what we're taking a hard look at.

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Did he seriously ask if they have too many runs in the game plan? lol

I do agree with the point I think he was getting at. Which is to execute a running play at more opportune times. I thought last year the run plays were predictable in nature and expected. How many of us on 3rd an long shouted "draw play" and were correct? That's one example.

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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
Not to mention, when was the last time we saw the slightest bit of misdirection from a Packers running play? It's almost always straight up the gut or if it's going wide, it is well telegraphed. The few times the Packers have attempted a little deception, the run has been snuffed out before it had a chance to develop.

I really, really hope they fix the miscommunication problems with James Starks in the coming season. It was annoying to see how impotent he became down the stretch in 2011. He never seemed to be in the right place at the right time.
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nerdmann
12 years ago
I'd love to see them run screens, but only if they do it well. For instance, I hate it when it looks like they're throwing the ball to the guy in the other jersey.
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DakotaT
12 years ago
I was really upset when Green went down. He was being groomed to be the third down screen back. Also, don't you think Cobb should line up in the backfield occassionally? The threat of his option pass in addition to his speed should demand a couple snaps a game.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

I was really upset when Green went down. He was being groomed to be the third down screen back. Also, don't you think Cobb should line up in the backfield occassionally? The threat of his option pass in addition to his speed should demand a couple snaps a game.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



For sure, WILDCAT!
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Pack93z
12 years ago
The argument for the running game vs the passing game has never been about a percent from one to another.. or running just to run.

It has always been, from my perspective been about keeping the defense off balance in their pre-snap reads and avoiding giving the defense an advantage before the ball is snapped. It sounds insignificant, but it is all about the split second that forces the defense to read the play at the snap and pause them even for the slightest moment to allow the offense to gain the advantage.

The winning element to football always has been and always will be dictating your will upon the other team. You win that battle, thy force will be with you more often than not.

I don't give two pinches less about the type of offense you run.. power run, run and shoot, whatever... if you can dictate your will upon the defense and force them to adjust their gameplan.. advantage you.

Same principle on defense but the target is slightly different.. there it is all about taking offensive elements away and then forcing them to become predictable to enhance your chances of making a play.

Hence.. why I maintain, catering to the glory boys that are the QB's and making them out as the end all be all is a mistake in most cases. Sure there are special players at the position, just like any other position, the truly make them special. But for the most part, just because they play the position of QB doesn't make them any more vital to your success than most any other position upon the team.


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El3ment12
12 years ago
Man, I miss Ahman Green.
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12 years ago
Trent Richardson is going to fall to 28 and Ted Thompson will grab him. Then you will really hear some howls!!! LOL
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Pack93z
12 years ago

Man, I miss Ahman Green.

Originally Posted by: El3ment380 



Was it really Ahman Green or an offensive line that had three interior lineman that could knock some heads in the running game, or at times could throw an extra hog in the U-71 package and really crack some skulls at the line of scrimmage?

Green was a good running back, but honestly he was afforded roads carved out by a physical line with a different run blocking scheme.

Again.. it all about dictating to the opposition. We had the talent and wanted to tear the defenses heart out on the ground and set up the pass for Brett and a not real deep receiving corp with a starting tight end that I could probably outrun. LOL.


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zombieslayer
12 years ago
It was the OL. The only year A Green was "elite" was 2003 and note that we had not one, not two, but 3 RBs who averaged over 5 ypc. That's no coincidence.

Thus I maintain we need a stronger OL.

As for less running plays, 🇲🇲 is just talking about the total number of plays. You can have only 10 running plays in your playbook but if you're good at all 10, you'll be way better than a team with 100 running plays that only do well with 2 of them consistently.
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