Bishop's departure part of Packers' 'transition' on defense

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

Green Bay --- The Green Bay Packers won't know if they made the right decision on Desmond Bishop for a while. Letting a starting inside linebacker sign with a division rival could backfire, it could prove to be a footnote.

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nyrpack
Veteran Member

10 years ago

i really liked bishop alot , he is a true warrior out there, but his health is always a big concern. if he would have stayed healthy , he would still be a green bay packer !!

jimmy b.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I miss him. I miss his intensity and his knack for making impact plays. I hope the new guys make me forget about him. This one hurt me more than Greg Jennings.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

I think they liked Manning and possibly Barrington better than they like Bishop.

But who know? The injury was a big deal too.

JSO

Bishop may have been able to help Green Bay in that playoff embarrassment at San Francisco. But Capers also notes that the Packers' defense was better overall in 2012 (when Bishop was out) than it was in 2011.

“I think we have a more athletic group and you throw a couple new guys in there, when you compare 2011 to 2012, we made big strides," Capers said. "Unfortunately, that last game skewed everybody’s opinion. We went from 32nd (in total defense) to 11th with nine guys who didn’t have any plays the year before. So hopefully that ends up playing dividends this year."

Great quote.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I think they liked Manning and possibly Barrington better than they like Bishop.

But who know? The injury was a big deal too.

JSO

Great quote.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Agreed. Because it is true. Rome wasn't built in a day. Cliche. But true.

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olds70supreme
Member

10 years ago

I was really surprised to see Bishop let go, even despite the injuries. After all, Harrell and Neal stuck/have stuck around despite being hurt often. I also really liked Bishop as a guy who brought intensity to the field without making it into a Barnett-like circus. In hindsight though, with his and Hawk's ages weighing into the equation it seems like the coaches may be sacrificing a small amount in the short term in order to allow other players to step in and develop reaping - benefits in the future.

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wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

Capers said. "Unfortunately, that last game skewed everybody’s opinion.

That is because the real season is the playoffs. If you get beat like a red headed stepchild in the playoffs your season is not all that successful even if you did go 16-0. The real goal is to win championships not to go undefeated in the regular season.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

Yeah the last game was the one that mattered. I hate seeing capers quote his rankings all the time. I dont care if they were ranked first if they get utterly destroyed and embarrassed in a playoff game they had a shit defense. This was 2 times Capers had a team with a "top 15" ranking and had an all-time bad showing in the playoffs so dont tell me what your ranking was.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I understand that sentimentality. But I propose this thought as an aside that you can scheme all you want, however at the end of the day, it is about playmakers making plays and there was not enough of that on either side of the ball with the Packers in that game.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

buckeyepackfan
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10 years ago

#10

The NFL playoff system is a CRUEL, CRUEL thing.

Win you move on, Lose you go home.

There is no best of llke Baseball and Basketball.

In the end there is only ONE completely satisfied Team and fan base..

Cliche time: Fans like players have to "Enjoy the Journey"

The Packers are not going to win The Super Bowl every year, take the good with the bad and enjoy.

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