buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

It doesn't matter to me if Hawk breaks the all time tackling record or not. I can live with it either way. How are buckeye's "stats solid" when he doesn't even provide any? He just says some numbers but doesn't know where they came from. He doesn't know if the numbers include the post season games or not.

While I go the the Packers site and give you their numbers for Hawk. And verified them at ESPN, CBS and today FOX. By the way FOX shows that Hawk has 39 post season tackles. link  That brings his total to 870 which is still a long way from 1020. I looked fro John's year by year break down at all the reliable sources like NFL reference.com and there are none. The only place I see any tackle info for him is the Packer record book. 870 still doesn't put him in the top 5. And the tackles have only been kept since 1975. So anyone who played prior to that does not count. A dubious record at best.

In the past professional teams keep regular season and post season records separate. Unlike college they don't commingle them as they know some teams and players are in the post season more often than others.

All I am asking is for clarification and proof. I get a reply he thinks it is true but has no source or links to verify. It seems that buckeye's "stats" are not solid at this time.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I want to make something clear here, I was just trying to provide you the information that was tweeted a couple of weeks ago, I do believe it was nerdman who passed it on in Live chat.
Then last week when Hawk was being interviewed on The NFL channel, the reporter(don't know his name), brought up the subject with A.J.
When I saw your post, I was just trying to pass along to you the info. that I had heard.

I have no clue where to find the numbers or how they have been tabulated through hawks career. I brought up the playoff scenario, only because of the number difference you posted about.

I have quit 2 things on this forum.

#1 posting or talking about any type of stat when it comes to football, because it has been made perfectly clear to me that stats are worthless information.

#2 Supporting any current or past Packer player, because, any positive point of view gets me accused of looking at the world through my Green and Gold glasses and is frowned upon.

So WPR you are right, my numbers are not valid, because I did not supply any numbers.
Or will I supply any numbers.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
10 years ago
buckeye my friend, I too have been so upset with other members of the board that I wasn't going to do something ever again (typically come back here again.) Don't let them ruin your day. If you like supporting players be it Hawk or others then by all means do so. If you like posting statistics I wish you would. I love looking at the hard cold numbers. It is true some numbers to paint the whole picture but some do. I was actually counting on you to help me out with this post because what we hear and what the numbers show don't add up. I don't know why.

My last post wasn't meant to criticize you merely to point out to others that you didn't have solid numbers the ones I was seeing at all the various websites were solid. One of the things I am glad to read from you is that there is this rumbling about Hawk closing in on the record. For several reasons. First I did not hear the tv dude wrong. When I looked at the stats I was beginning to wonder. Second it does validate Hawk to some degree. He may not be the most beloved Packer but he has meant something to the team. Whether or not he is worthy of his draft position or his pay is a different matter and subject to personal opinion. That he has been fairly successful in his job should not be. That some or all would like for him to have been better over the past 8 years is obvious. I would like Brett, Aaron and just about every single player to have been better than what they were.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I have quit 2 things on this forum.

#1 posting or talking about any type of stat when it comes to football, because it has been made perfectly clear to me that stats are worthless information.

#2 Supporting any current or past Packer player, because, any positive point of view gets me accused of looking at the world through my Green and Gold glasses and is frowned upon.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I never knew Buckeye's were quitters. I thought they stood their ground and stood proud. Learn something knew everyday.

My advice, buck up buttercup and don't let anyone dictate what you contribute to the site. Also, understand things you say will not be agreed upon or liked by everyone here. THAT fact is what makes this place great. Different ideas, different thoughts, different mindsets, ... different.

If we all banged the same drum over and over again ... lets not think of what would happen.


Oh and btw A.J. Hawk sucks!!!!!
UserPostedImage
sschind
10 years ago

I never knew Buckeye's were quitters. I thought they stood their ground and stood proud. Learn something knew everyday.

My advice, buck up buttercup and don't let anyone dictate what you contribute to the site. Also, understand things you say will not be agreed upon or liked by everyone here. THAT fact is what makes this place great. Different ideas, different thoughts, different mindsets, ... different.

If we all banged the same drum over and over again ... lets not think of what would happen.


Oh and btw A.J. Hawk sucks!!!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't know why but when I first got here I was lead to believe that we were all going to get free bacon and that is what made this place great.

It must have been a misunderstanding. That other stuff is good though too.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

macbob
10 years ago

I don't know why but when I first got here I was lead to believe that we were all going to get free bacon and that is what made this place great.

It must have been a misunderstanding. That other stuff is good though too.

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

Originally Posted by: sschind 



ARRRRGGGHHHH! Now you've made me hungry.

But seriously, Zero--I support sschind's idea--I think free bacon would be a tremendous addition to the site.


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

The Bears and the Lions already gave us our presents last weekend... 😆

UserPostedImage
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (13h) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (18h) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (20h) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (20h) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (22h) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (22h) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (22h) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (23h) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (23h) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
beast (25-Apr) : Fuck
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : I hope they take a Punter at 9th overall. Be bold!
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I may end up eating those words but I think they need a lot more talent then their 4 picks can provide
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I really hope they stand pat and Draft a WR
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : @DMRussini
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : The Chicago Bears are very open for business at 9 and telling teams they are ready to move for the right price, per source
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!
dfosterf (24-Apr) : (Your trade up mock post)
dfosterf (24-Apr) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol
beast (24-Apr) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : What? And who?
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

17h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

28-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.