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9 years ago
so disappointing. Teddy will probably get a 7th round pick for him. He loves them. There is no pressure on him when they fail. [grin1]
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Ted Thompson's best two picks were Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers. They have been doing some great things together. Ted can also draft the hell out of some wide receivers.

His early round defensive linemen have been less than steller though. We all know it. This is certainly fitting right in with his struggles in that department. This trade is as much of an admission of failure as it would have been to outright cut him.

No one is perfect and he is no exception. But I am glad we have him as our GM and proud to be a fan of a team who is always in the playoff hunt year after year. Sometimes we lose sight on how good we have it.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
uffda udfa
9 years ago

23 other teams, with GMs whose job is to pick good football players also passed on Rodgers. If it was such an obvious move why didn't he go #2? Hind-sight is 20-20, Ted Thompson made the pick without the benefit of hindsight. Had Rodgers not worked out you would be telling everyone how obvious the red flags were that a potential #1 pick fell to #24.

Again, you have to give Ted Thompson full credit for the pick, if you're going to give him full blame for the bad picks, otherwise you show hypocrisy and confirmation bias.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



You didn't watch the draft that year or you wouldn't have asked that question.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


earthquake
9 years ago

You didn't watch the draft that year or you wouldn't have asked that question.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



In other words you have no response. Ok, have fun with your confirmation bias and circular arguments.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

In other words you have no response. Ok, have fun with your confirmation bias and circular arguments.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



[palm] My goodness. You didn't watch it, did you? Go back and explain to me which teams had a need at QB who drafted before the Packers. I believe there is even a clip on YouTube where it shows him in the green room picks before we picked and the ESPN crew talking about Green Bay being the logical place for him to go.

The draft is my favorite event in sports. I follow it very closely. You have taken a no brainer situation and spun it in your own mind into something it isn't to validate an inaccurate view of the situation so you can do "battle" with me.

If Jadeveon Clowney had fallen to our pick this year should Ted have taken him? If he did, would he be a genius? How about Khalil Mack?
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Loving the deployment of the confirmation bias. Psychology is fun.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
uffda udfa
9 years ago

Loving the deployment of the confirmation bias. Psychology is fun.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



If you're referring to me, that's rich. Please, tell me the evidence I've dismissed that counters my viewpoint.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


earthquake
9 years ago

If you're referring to me, that's rich. Please, tell me the evidence I've dismissed that counters my viewpoint.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You constantly devalue TT's positive accomplishments while magnifying his failures. He is responsible for drafting one of the greatest players of this generation, perhaps all time, yet in your mind any idiot could have done that. On the contrary, the smallest mistake is entirely his fault and is just another in his long list of failures.

If this isn't a clear example of conformation bias I have no idea what is. When it is pointed out, you misdirect (aka move the goal posts) and try to change the subject.

Your routine couldn't possibly be more transparent.

Try coming to a conclusion after doing research instead of doing research to support your pre-conceived conclusions, then perhaps your arguments will actually have some merit.
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musccy
9 years ago
I don't mean to delve too deep into this other than to say uffda is right...There was a point in the mid teens where it did seem that ARod could fall due to teams not needing a qb.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

You constantly devalue TT's positive accomplishments while magnifying his failures. He is responsible for drafting one of the greatest players of this generation, perhaps all time, yet in your mind any idiot could have done that. On the contrary, the smallest mistake is entirely his fault and is just another in his long list of failures.

If this isn't a clear example of conformation bias I have no idea what is. When it is pointed out, you misdirect (aka move the goal posts) and try to change the subject.

Your routine couldn't possibly be more transparent.

Try coming to a conclusion after doing research instead of doing research to support your pre-conceived conclusions, then perhaps your arguments will actually have some merit.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



I do? How many times have I brought up the fact that Aaron Rodgers covers a multitude of sins? If I'm minimizing his accomplishments I sure talk about his biggest one an awful lot. Plus, I've put into proper context his big signature move. The one I liked even better was how he handled the Favre situation. A thing of beauty.

Clay Matthews was an excellent trade up and I said in this post or another that he always seems to find value while shopping at the dollar store. That doesn't sound like I don't credit him. I do...he's excellent with UDFA and late round guys. He's not so good up toward the top. If he was half as good at the picks that should be good players as he is at finding ones who shouldn't, this team would be dynamic. Sadly, we're carried to the playoffs by Rodgers only to lose because we have no defense and he struggles to put the right pieces together.

I would argue hypocrisy in stating what you have about me. Accentuate the positive and dismiss the negative and throw a little confirmation bias alamode on the side. Rich. Are you more balanced than I am in your postings? Really?


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