steveishere
9 years ago

Wonder who will be starting opposing Sam Shields, Hayward - Hyde - * unsung hero * - draft.

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



At this point it's probably Shields and Hayward with Hyde in the slot. Hayward might not be as good outside as he is in the slot but I don't really see a rookie CB beating him out as a starter this year. If that happens I think we can feel pretty good about that rookie though because Hayward is pretty solid.
Yerko
9 years ago

The bad... Packers lose both Williams and House....
The good... both most likely get the Packers high comp picks (3rd/4th range) next year....

The new questions
1) Will the Packers be bringing in any outside FA CBs in?
2) What does the draft look like for the CB positions?
3) What are the chances the Packers move Hyde back to CB?
4) What does the draft look like for the CB positions? (in case #3 happens)
5) Can Richardson be a good #3 S? Or would they need more help there if they moved Hyde back?


Originally Posted by: beast 



1. Would be good to look around but pickings are getting slim. Zachary Bowman might be someone to look at.
2. One CB I have been drooling over is PJ Williams from FSU. I work with a guy that is good friends with him (played at the same high school) that said he has the tools to become an exceptional corner in the league. Big for a corner and has a good press game. Imo, someone who can manage coverage with Megatron and Alshon.
3. I think this is going to have to be done due to lack of depth at CB now.
4. Jalen Collins (LSU) is another name to consider here. Both Collins and Williams can easily be there at pick 30. Its just a matter of what Ted Thompson sees as more of a need, CB or ILB.
5. I like Richardson in the run game. That is about it. He is a physical safety.

Thinking about what I just wrote, I am freaking out a little now about the CB and ILB positions. There is a good chance that a Perryman, Dawson or Kendricks is available in the 2nd round but it is risky if Ted Thompson were to go the CB route in the first. For all we know, Ted Thompson might not even have any of these guys on his radar.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
We are instantly less soft with him gone. I am ecstatic. 3 of our softest players are no more...Hawk, Jones and Tramon.

Tramon will never see year 3 of his current deal and may not, depending on structure, see year 2.

I'm happy to see the change. My lasting memory will be him taking one to the house right before half in the playoff game at Atlanta.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I'm happy to see the change. My lasting memory will be him taking one to the house right before half in the playoff game at Atlanta.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



When that happened, I said "GAME OVER!". Can you imagine how debilitating that had to be? Trying to at least get into FG range and BOOM, tack on another 7 for the good guys.
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porky88
9 years ago
Time to get Casey Heyward on the field more. He's way too underutilized.
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9 years ago
Most of the time when a Packer signs with somebody else, I have bad feelings for them. Occasionally, though, when somebody who has given us excellence for a long time goes and literally FLEECES some other team, well, I'll just say Good Job and Good Luck. I hope enough of that $21 mil is guaranteed.
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dhazer
9 years ago

We are instantly less soft with him gone. I am ecstatic. 3 of our softest players are no more...Hawk, Jones and Tramon.

Tramon will never see year 3 of his current deal and may not, depending on structure, see year 2.

I'm happy to see the change. My lasting memory will be him taking one to the house right before half in the playoff game at Atlanta.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Seriously are you at all a Packer fan? You say those are all good moves but we did nothing to replace them. The defense was playing great at the end of the year but now you take away what 4 of the starters and you think its ok. Alot of people are saying its ok but what did we replace these guys with? Anyone Anyone Bueller? Right now we have 2 ILB that were what 3rd string bottom of the barrel CBs and no NT. Yaaaaaa I can see another 9-7 year coming because our defense won't stop anyone. Maybe thats why he banked so much on the whale and Cobb, hoping to outscore other teams. I think we have lost ground on the Seahawks and Cowboys and Eagles.
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greengold
9 years ago
Holy Crap! I don't see any details anywhere yet but I'm guessing he will make at least 50% more this year than he would have gotten here.

I actually wish him well and hope he does well ... but I don't see him living up to that contract. I think the offer for him to stay and retire as a Packer was more than fair.
musccy
9 years ago

Seriously are you at all a Packer fan? You say those are all good moves but we did nothing to replace them. The defense was playing great at the end of the year but now you take away what 4 of the starters and you think its ok. Alot of people are saying its ok but what did we replace these guys with? Anyone Anyone Bueller? Right now we have 2 ILB that were what 3rd string bottom of the barrel CBs and no NT. Yaaaaaa I can see another 9-7 year coming because our defense won't stop anyone. Maybe thats why he banked so much on the whale and Cobb, hoping to outscore other teams. I think we have lost ground on the Seahawks and Cowboys and Eagles.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 




B. Jones was all but relegated to special teams, and Hawk was conceding snaps to Barrington. I'm not saying they're the answer, but don't forget we've got "hair on fire" Bradford, Mulumba, Palmer and others to experiment with along with the team all but certainly adding depth still via FA and the draft.

As for Tramon - I liked him just because of depth, but a 32 y.o. cb is going to become a liability sooner than later. The saying "better to cut a year too early than a year too late" comes to mind.

Yes, you're right we're left thin and nobody can be happy about that - but that also doesn't justify wasting money on players who won't adequately fill your needs.
dhazer
9 years ago

B. Jones was all but relegated to special teams, and Hawk was conceding snaps to Barrington. I'm not saying they're the answer, but don't forget we've got "hair on fire" Bradford, Mulumba, Palmer and others to experiment with along with the team all but certainly adding depth still via FA and the draft.

As for Tramon - I liked him just because of depth, but a 32 y.o. cb is going to become a liability sooner than later. The saying "better to cut a year too early than a year too late" comes to mind.

Yes, you're right we're left thin and nobody can be happy about that - but that also doesn't justify wasting money on players who won't adequately fill your needs.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



So your close to a Super Bowl and you let alot of your defense go and want to bank on rookies and untested players, ya thats the way to make it to the Super Bowl, oh ya and heaven forbid we over pay on anyone, not like we aren't overpaying for CM3. Ted Thompson acts like he gets to pocket the $21 million we still have in cap room. Oh well hopefully we can get a top 10 pick. Bad thing is we will be playing against the the weak Bears and Vikes and 1 win against the Lions lol. Well so much for a top 5 pick.
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