Mailbag: Addressing the need for a tight end· Page 2

luigis
Member

9 years ago

C'mon, if Maxx Williams is there draft his ass!!!

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

In most mocks and simulations I see a scenario where can choose from:

- TE Maxx Williams
- ILB Kendrick/McKinney or both
- DT Jrodan Philips
- WR Dorial Green Beckham / R.Perriman

I think this draft has good depth at WR so we can pass on the WRs.
I'm not sure if I'd like to spend a 1st round pick in a DT, they are frequently busts.
I don't like McKinney.

And between Williams and Kendrick I'm not sure who I would pick.

Luis

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#12

Unnecessary thread, focus on the real needs instead of luxury fantasies . Defense is the #1 priority need, if you can't see that, then you need ease off on the partying and join the rest of the non-zombie Packer Nation .

Go Pack Go !

Originally Posted by: Smokey

At this point, if things stay the same... defense isn't #1 priority... it's #1, 2 AND 3!!!!

At least until they shore up NT, ILB or CB a little bit more... I understand they got some potential guys underneath them that could step up... but at minimum don't we need at least another NT before worrying about anything on offense.

But back to subject... TE Rodgers seems to lack speed... but he seems to have about everything else. Maybe not a world setter with quickness and route running but it's good enough and they both could take a jump up now that he knows the system and will have a full off season to get ready for it. And if Rodgers gets better a little better at blocking, I think/wonder if the Packers might use him a lot more in the H-back/FB role as well as TE. Mike McCarthy used to use a lot more H-back stuff than he has lately as he hasn't had the H-back to go with.

I haven't seen Max Williams block that well, and it looks like he's a long strider like Nelson... long striders seem to normally do better on the outside than the quickness on the inside. I think Williams could be a good receiver in the NFL. But I'm thinking the Packers just pick a developmental TE in day 3 (rounds 4 through 7).

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

I'm sorry but I don't want Ted Thompson drafting defense, defense, defense. That's just plain stupid.

Our GM's track record isn't stellar at drafting D, hence, the cry for defense, defense, defense EVERY FREAKING YEAR. The last thing we need is Ted purposely trying to draft all D. He's not very good when that is not what he's trying to do.

My preference is BPA and not weighted and slanted so ridiculously toward D that we skip good offensive players because we "need" defensive players. Too bad when you don't use FA to fill holes you are forced to panic and draft more for need.

Melvin Gordon is sitting there at the end of Round 1 and there's the 6th or 7th best CB or 3rd best ILB... do you really want to take defense because you think we need D and don't need O? Lacy goes down Week 1 with an ACL and we have some scrub CB or ILB draft pick instead of Melvin Gordon? Take the best player. We need best players not some guy way down the list because he plays a position of perceived need.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

#14

When drafting in the 30th position of each round - BPA is the only logical drafting strategy.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#15

BPA is all nice in theory but the reality is sooner or later you're going to have some equal grades on guy and going to have to use more than just BPA to decide between them. And if the BPA is a QB in the first round... do you really take the QB with the MVP QB already on the roster?

Also for the record, I wasn't suggesting draft only defense... just that the priorities were mainly defense. If you got a good offensive player option great... but got to make sure they're better than all the defenders left first.

Mucky Tundra
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

I'm not sure what Dick Rods ceiling is but his hands make him look like a contributor. He was catching everything thrown at him at the end of the season but always had someone attached to his hip. It'll be interesting to see how much he can improve during the offseason.

As far as drafting a TE goes, everything I've read says this years crop is real weak. Might explain why Rodgers and Gilmore (and to a lesser extent Fiederowicz) went a lot earlier than expected last year, teams knew they had to overpay or roll the dice in the Draft and FA this year.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

This has to be a joke right. We can't draft a guy with a name like Dick Rod. Does the guy have the 70's porn stache as well.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#18

This has to be a joke right. We can't draft a guy with a name like Dick Rod. Does the guy have the 70's porn stache as well.

Originally Posted by: sschind

We already drafted Richard Rodgers...
As for the 70's porn stache I'll let you judge...

Bonus

How Dick became a nickname for Richard is known and is one of those “knee bone connected to the thigh bone” type progressions, somewhat similar to how the word ‘soccer’ came about. Due to people having to write everything by hand, shortened versions of Richard were common, such as ‘Ric’ or ‘Rich’. This in turn gave rise to nicknames like ‘Richie’, ‘Rick’, and ‘Ricket’, among others. People also used to like to use rhyming names; thus, someone who was nicknamed Rich might further be nicknamed Hitch. Thus, Richard -> Ric -> Rick gave rise to nicknames like Dick and Hick around the early 13th century.

todayifoundout.com wrote:

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#19

We already drafted Richard Rodgers...
As for the 70's porn stache I'll let you judge...

Bonus

Originally Posted by: beast

I had no idea Muck was talking about Richard Rodgers. I guess I didn't read the rest of the post that clearly after I saw the name. I thought he was referring to some college player named Dick Rod and not some using some silly nickname.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: sschind

I understand... I just thought it was funny that after your "70's porn stache" comment, finding out that he often really does have a stache ... though it's probably not 70's worthy...

Though this one might be... for A Rod

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