Is James Starks safe?· Page 2

texaspackerbacker
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8 years ago

In looking at James 1.8 mil cap hit... he has 362k cap charge if we cut him if he hasn't already achieved his roster bonus of 225k, but I believe he has to make the roster, but I'm unclear on that.

So cutting him clears about 1.45 million....

A guy like Alonzo Harris is 400k against our cap. We'd net a mil if we got rid of James and went with Harris. In fact, his total 3 year deal is what James charge for this year is.

I remain convinced if the gap isn't clear that James is really on the bubble here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Do we really need that million? I don't think so. From all I've heard, we are in great shape cap-wise.

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texaspackerbacker
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8 years ago

#12

I don't see Starks as similar to Lacy at all. Completely different type of runner, and much faster.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

For sure! Starks is like a poor man's Melvin Gordon - a degree of power and excellent speed and quickness (those two items aren't always the same).

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buckeyepackfan
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8 years ago

#13

For sure! Starks is like a poor man's Melvin Gordon - a degree of power and excellent speed and quickness (those two items aren't always the same).

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

How can you say that at this point?

Starks is a proven veteran who has developed into a great #2.
HE ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE!

Gordan was a great college back who still has to prove he can make it in The NFL.

The real battle to watch is for the #3 spot.

The guy that learns the playbook, excells at blocking and contribute on ST's will be the one who makes the final 53.

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texaspackerbacker
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8 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

hahahahahaha it was meant as a compliment to Starks. When he's healthy, he looks kinda like Gordon. I agree, his job is secure.

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DarkaneRules
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8 years ago

#15

They lined by Neal at a receiver in practice today which they have done with Starks before. He caught a deep ball over Richardson for 35 yards. Interesting... 🙂

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#16

They lined by Neal at a receiver in practice today which they have done with Starks before. He caught a deep ball over Richardson for 35 yards. Interesting... :)

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Neal over Starks would save 1 million on our cap this year. Neal's salaries are 400+K this season and 525k, next. If Neal can pass protect I don't know why people think it's impossible that a costlier, older, more injury prone 29 year old back might be done here?

Curious to see if any of our other backs get shots with the 1st OL. The one(s) who do are the ones that have a shot to displace James.

I'm on the Neal bandwagon over Starks.

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DakotaT
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8 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Yeah, I don't think Starks goes anywhere. We don't even use all our cap, we certainly aren't going to cut veterans to save money we aren't even using.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#18

Yeah, I don't think Starks goes anywhere. We don't even use all our cap, we certainly aren't going to cut veterans to save money we aren't even using.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Never underestimate the power of the almighty dollar in Packer land. If it's anywhere close Starks is gone.

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beast
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8 years ago

#19

In looking at James 1.8 mil cap hit...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I think that's probably the mistake... you're looking at the money... while the Packers look at the players on the field.

James is up there in years and isn't going to get less injury prone.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

He isn't going to get less injury prone? ... then why was last year his first year playing all 16 games?

Since 2012 he seems to be getting less injury prone...

2012: 6 games
2013: 13 games
2014: 16 games

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#20

I think that's probably the mistake... you're looking at the money... while the Packers look at the players on the field.

He isn't going to get less injury prone? ... then why was last year his first year playing all 16 games?

Since 2012 he seems to be getting less injury prone...

2012: 6 games
2013: 13 games
2014: 16 games

Originally Posted by: beast

COMPLETELY disagree. Ted Thompson would be a horrific GM if he didn't do BOTH.

If Neal is the equal or near equal of Starks, Starks will likely get waived. Why pay more for the same or near same? Who does that that you know of? Why would a GM of the storied Packers not try to save a mil if he could? That would be bad management.

What do you think would happen to James if he had to play FULL TIME if Lacy went down. How good would his number of games played look? Ironically, the 13 and 16 came AFTER Lacy arrived and he didn't have to be counted on.

The best argument is to say Neal got hurt last year so he might be no better than Starks in that arena, but at least he'd be a mil cheaper.

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