nerdmann
8 years ago

I don't understand why you think the fans/org is saying that, though. No we didn't go hog wild in F.A. but that isn't the only way to win, it's not the only way to show you care about winning.

We've seen 1 year of what RR can do. We know Quarless is at least competent albeit certainly far from spectacular, and I'm assuming Ted felt we were "good enough" there so he could focus elsewhere.

Signing Reggie, Eugene, and Beebe are one way to improve your roster or say "good isn't good enough." D&D is another way to address the roster. The Packers saw CB is the biggest need this offseason and they went after it in the draft. The augmented their ST with Monty. They cleaned house at ILB and are relying on returning potential and Ryan. They're addressing needs, just not in the way Wolf did.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



The Seahawks went back to the SB, because we shat ourselves EPICALLY, repeatedly in the last 5:19 of that game. Remember that Favre INT? Either one, in the Championship Game against the Giants or the Saints. What we did was the equivalent of that, about 5 times in the last 5 minutes.

The Seahawks have lost quite a few players.
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DakotaT
8 years ago
So let me get this straight, Uffda and I have to tell all of you the players we need? Do you all have any idea how stupid that is? We have a GM to do that, but he puts way too much faith in his draft and develop system. We say Thompson did nothing, again, to fix the tight end position. What's it been 3 years since Finley played? I think in that amount of time, Thompson could have adequately filled the position. That's GM failure.

Are we set a safety and corner, I'm sure not convinced? It's been a long time since Collins has been injured. It sure is nice to spend some high draft picks there, but are any of them accomplished players yet? That two point conversion should have been knocked down, and that play Dix should have been made in his sleep.

You guys can ridicule Uffda and me all you want, we have valid concerns and are voicing them. We are wasting Aaron Rodgers' career.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

So let me get this straight, Uffda and I have to tell all of you the players we need? Do you all have any idea how stupid that is? We have a GM to do that, but he puts way too much faith in his draft and develop system. We say Thompson did nothing, again, to fix the tight end position. What's it been 3 years since Finley played? I think in that amount of time, Thompson could have adequately filled the position. That's GM failure.

Are we set a safety and corner, I'm sure not convinced? It's been a long time since Collins has been injured. It sure is nice to spend some high draft picks there, but are any of them accomplished players yet? That two point conversion should have been knocked down, and that play Dix should have been made in his sleep.

You guys can ridicule Uffda and me all you want, we have valid concerns and are voicing them. We are wasting Aaron Rodgers' career.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



According to Uffda, Jeff Janis is practically Julio Jones, so why hate on Ted? He got a first round value with a 7th round pick.

As for TE, we've got RR. He will be more than adequate for the time being. Are there better players at the position to ever have played the game? Probably. However as I've stated repeatedly, he had about 30 more receptions his rookie year than Finley had. So let's see how he looks in year 2.

As for Dix, he was a rookie. Let's either compare him to Nick Collins as a rookie or wait until he's in his prime to make the comparison.

PLAYERS aren't what kept us out of the SB last year.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
8 years ago

So let me get this straight, Uffda and I have to tell all of you the players we need? Do you all have any idea how stupid that is? We have a GM to do that, but he puts way too much faith in his draft and develop system. We say Thompson did nothing, again, to fix the tight end position. What's it been 3 years since Finley played? I think in that amount of time, Thompson could have adequately filled the position. That's GM failure.

Are we set a safety and corner, I'm sure not convinced? It's been a long time since Collins has been injured. It sure is nice to spend some high draft picks there, but are any of them accomplished players yet? That two point conversion should have been knocked down, and that play Dix should have been made in his sleep.

You guys can ridicule Uffda and me all you want, we have valid concerns and are voicing them. We are wasting Aaron Rodgers' career.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



So let me get this straight, Aaron Rodgers goes 19-34, 178 yards, and 1 td 2 ints in a NFC championship game. Yet, the rest of the Packers organization is wasting Rodgers career? That doesn't make sense.


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uffda udfa
8 years ago

According to Uffda, Jeff Janis is practically Julio Jones, so why hate on Ted? He got a first round value with a 7th round pick.

As for TE, we've got RR. He will be more than adequate for the time being. Are there better players at the position to ever have played the game? Probably. However as I've stated repeatedly, he had about 30 more receptions his rookie year than Finley had. So let's see how he looks in year 2.

As for Dix, he was a rookie. Let's either compare him to Nick Collins as a rookie or wait until he's in his prime to make the comparison.

PLAYERS aren't what kept us out of the SB last year.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Uffda NEVER said JJ was Julio Jones...I said he had Julio's measurables but I understand trying to make it appear I did. It's more fun that way.

Probably????????????? That's hilarious. Probably?

We've got RR for now...that's like saying we have AJ Hawk, for now, last year. Of course you're going to have someone...but is that someone going to help you win?

Not players fault last year? Brandon Bostick can't do his job on an onside? Tramon can't cover a bomb vs. Seattle's WRs? Dix can't make a play on a 2 point conversion that any kid in pee wee football would've made. I can still hear Aikman asking how in the world he missed it? Those are PLAYERS who did NOT make PLAYS. This could go on forever... yes, we play NOT TO LOSE, that is a HUGE pet peeve. Just tell me why you love playing not to lose off the field so much? You love that about our GM... we're synced as an org...we are a play it safe org. Plod along. Don't take chances. How you love one and hate the other is odd. I'm for all out off the field and on it...why play any sport if that ain't how you're going to do it. That's not leaving it all out there...



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DakotaT
8 years ago

So let me get this straight, Aaron Rodgers goes 19-34, 178 yards, and 1 td 2 ints in a NFC championship game. Yet, the rest of the Packers organization is wasting Rodgers career? That doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



The Packers organization could load this team up more by making some trades or signing free agents in the off season, but they refuse. It was the same thing in Favre's day. Lunacy is continuing to make the same mistakes hoping for a different result.
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8 years ago

The Packers organization could load this team up more by making some trades or signing free agents in the off season, but they refuse. It was the same thing in Favre's day. Lunacy is continuing to make the same mistakes hoping for a different result.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It is not about the talent anymore. The talent is there. Now it is about needing your superstar quarterback to play like an above average quarterback against tough defenses and your coach not to go into bitch mode.
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gbguy20
8 years ago

How long was the inside linebacker position ignored, because we had awesome players in AJ Hawk and Brad Jones? Stupidity like that costs you championships. You don't get players like Aaron Rodgers every day. Isn't it the responsibility of the GM to put forth the very best team he can assemble and not go into each season with glaring holes?

The tight end position is weak, and our OT position is sketchy. And I've been praying for a Megatron/Dez Bryant type of talent at WR for a long time, just to make Rodgers' job easier.

We have a smaller window with Rodgers than people want to admit to. Basically 2011 through 2015 were pissed away. How many more will be like that. Like I've said, I've watched this movie before with Favre's career.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Not sure why you quoted me when your post wasn't even relevant to mine. But you're right. Lineback was ignored for a bit. However, I do not consider Hawk to be as awful as most of you do.
nerdmann
8 years ago

The Packers organization could load this team up more by making some trades or signing free agents in the off season, but they refuse. It was the same thing in Favre's day. Lunacy is continuing to make the same mistakes hoping for a different result.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Ted drafts largely for BPA and doesn't waste money on high priced FAs.

If that's what you want your GM to do, look no further than Mike Sherman.
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buckeyepackfan
8 years ago

"Draft and develop" isn't to have to depend on them as rookies. We HAVE to do that because we don't use FA. You honestly think drafting for need is a good thing to begin with? You draft for need because you need a starter and that's never a good approach. The BPA is skipped over because you're looking for a starter at ONE position. You end up drafting who you think is best at ONE position instead of ALL positions. Is it a wonder that's kinda dumb?

I know you can get production from rookies...it ain't a sound strategy to depend on it.

The O, Buck, is fine minus the TE position. Where have I been railing the O other than RZ where TE is a big reason they suck down there? I said, today, and a long time ago I think our O is good enough to carry us to an undefeated regular season.

Very well could be counting on Gunter, any of the TE's once Quarless is suspended/cut and RR gets hurt, or even if he doesn't. Who is playing DL the first few weeks? Will Gaston not have to play? I already detailed what very well could happen because of how we're set up. You didn't need to reask...just reread.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Your argument as always is weak.


What you documented is what YOU HOPE HAPPENS.

You've spun this silly bullshit that only you and a few others care what happens with The Packers.

You're whole stupid argument is based on The Packers failing.

They succeed and as always, Ted Thompson, the guy you despise, makes you look the fool.

SO HERE'S TO TED MAKING YOU LOOK THE FOOL!

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