Mike Nolan : "Aaron was very cocky, very confident, arrogant."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Leading up to the 2005 NFL Draft, the 49ers gave an edge to eventual No. 1 pick Alex Smith thanks to Smith's humble nature and a litany of perceived flaws in Aaron Rodgers -- cockiness, arrogance and a goofy throwing motion among them.

"The other thing as Alex at the time was a good kid -- a very good person, a safe choice, always trying to please," former 49ers coach Mike Nolan said Tuesday morning on NFL HQ. "On the other hand, Aaron was very cocky, very confident, arrogant. So you can say, 'Why didn't you take him to begin with?' Because that's really what your best quarterbacks look like. They aren't very pleasing. They aren't very safe."

"Basically, we thought in the long term that Alex Smith would be the better choice than Aaron," Nolan said. "It was one of those, maybe, paralysis by analysis. We had so much time to think about it.

"We put a lot of stock in changing Aaron's throwing style. We also got caught up a little bit in that Alex was so mobile. That was a good thing. But in the end, we felt Alex would be the better long-time guy. Obviously, we were wrong in that thought process."

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nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

Whichever one got Mike to coach him up, turned out better.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

yooperfan
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Ha ha ha ha!
We got the better QB but unfortunately they were able to skin us in the playoffs.

shield4life
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Ha ha ha ha!
We got the better QB but unfortunately they were able to skin us in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Not with Smith they haven't.

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Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

AR was never a top 5 pick. It was a media hype scheme by NFL; similar motives at play as them telling the Rams not to leak their pick.

And with the draft coming, remember the talking head/draftnik musings must be taken with a grain of salt. The collective Scouts determine where a guy should be drafted. The fan or draftnik that said, Brady should be drafted in 2nd round; then looks at his career and says, "I was right;" remains a damned fool. They're just the broken clock that is right 2x per day. The scouts possess and infinite amount more info and if the draftnik/fan had it and the skill to evaluate; they would NEVER in a million years say, for example, Brady is a 2nd rounder. Their deciding that Brady is a 2nd rounder is based on incomplete or bad info. Its like the dope that you play a dice game against and he picks snake eyes to your 7 and he wins because the dice just happens to hit snake eyes.

When a guy is picked "too early;" it could be a scouting dept on drugs or a dumbass owner intervening. But when a guy is picked "too late," it is PROOF that he did not "fall." When a guy "falls" it means that most, if not all scouting depts, had the guy picked to go that "late [or later]."

We have just witnessed what happens when the consensus of scouts believe there are 2 top 5 QBs; and we saw the price Wash and Atl paid for RG3 and Julio Jones.

If the consensus of scouts viewed Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 pick, it is possible no team wanted to pay a kings ransom to move up and draft him there. But, when he fell to 10, to 15 to 20, the fact that no team went and got him for a fraction of the cost of getting a top 5 QB pick means that most, if not all, of the NFL scouting departments viewed him as no better than a late round 1/early round 2 guy. Aaron Rodgers simply was not a top 5 guy; Aaron Rodgers was developed into greatness by Mike McCarthy as Nerd said.

blueleopard
Member

8 years ago

Nobody "needed" a QB that year. Not to mention the draft had no cap. Part of the reason why teams who might've needed a QB avoided Rodgers is because he easily could've demanded Top 5 money.

It's more than just the ability out of college. It's the business side too.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Not with Smith they haven't.

Originally Posted by: shield4life

This of course is true, but they skinned us when WE had Rodgers.

FLORIDA PACKER88
Member

8 years ago

This of course is true, but they skinned us when WE had Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Yes but they also skinned when we had... our historically lovely defense!

packerfanoutwest
Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

Vikings needed a QB and they passed on Rodgers twice

Cheesey
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#10

Hindsight is 20/20.
Every GM HOPES he makes the right pick. But there are no guarantees.

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