Jacob
  • Jacob
  • Rookie Topic Starter
15 years ago
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090302/PKR01/90302225/1954/PKR03 

The Green Bay Packers are where General Manager Ted Thompson is most comfortable with free agency, sorting through the second wave of players to augment the teams defensive front seven and other roster holes.
Advertisement
Quantcast

In the first three days of free agency, Thompson lost out in his rare pursuit of a player who drew major interest on opening day, defensive end Chris Canty, and saw one of his players and a potential backup on the defensive line, Colin Cole, sign with another team.

Now, the Packers are looking at players who werent part of the opening-weekend free-agent frenzy, and thus might be had at more palatable prices.

The priority will be trying to augment the defensive front seven with potential starters or backups in the teams switch to the 3-4 defense.

Among the possibilities are possible 3-4 defensive ends such as San Diegos Igor Olshansky, Houstons Anthony Weaver, New Englands Mike Wright, Tampa Bays Kevin Carter, Baltimores Marques Douglas, Oaklands William Joseph, and Vonnie Holliday, who was cut by Miami on Monday.

The Packers also are in the market for a competent backup to Ryan Pickett at nose tackle. Their best candidate on their roster is Johnny Jolly, who is in the running to start at defensive end. The list of free agents who could fit that role is short but includes Atlantas Grady Jackson, San Franciscos Ron Fields and Dallas Tank Johnson.

Thompson and his scouting staff will need a keen eye to target the right players for help.
Who's available at DE

Olshansky (6-foot-6, 309 pounds) probably will draw the most interest of the group because hes young (26) and a former second-round draft pick, but hes coming off a poor season and that raises a red flag.

Weaver (6-3, 286) received a $12.5 million bonus to sign with Houston in 2006 but was a bust playing in the Texans 4-3 scheme after playing three of his first four seasons in Baltimores 3-4.

Carter (6-6, 305) is old at 35 but played surprisingly well last season and never has missed a game in his 14-year NFL career.

Douglas (6-2, 292) and Wright (6-4, 295) were part-time players in the 3-4 last season.

Joseph (6-5, 310) is a former first-round draft pick who has been a major underachiever but has the prototypical build for a 3-4 end, a position hes never played.

Holliday (6-5, 285) played in 66 games for the Packers from 1998 to 2002. He was Green Bay's first-round draft choice in 1998, the 19th player chosen in that draft. He had 46 tackles and 3 sacks for Miami last season and was strong against the run.
Who's available at NT

At nose tackle, Jackson still has surprising ability for short spurts and played in 15 of 16 games last season but at 36 and 380-plus pounds would be a major injury risk. He played in 34 games for the Packers from 2003 to 2005.

Fields, who has been a backup his four years in the NFL, already has drawn interest from Denver and St. Louis.

Johnsons performance in Dallas 3-4 defense last season suggests hes a questionable fit as a nose tackle.

Thompson was looking to fill a starting spot at defensive end with his pursuit of Canty, who signed a six-year deal with the New York Giants worth $42 million, including $17.25 million in guaranteed money.

The Packers tried to re-sign Cole before free agency as a backup nose tackle and defensive end, but he went to the open market and signed a five-year contract with Seattle worth $21.5 million, including $6 million guaranteed.
2 Packers players look elsewhere

The Packers also have two other free agents who have drawn interest from other teams, defensive end Michael Montgomery and fullback John Kuhn.

Montgomery will visit the Atlanta Falcons today in his first trip in free agency, according to his agent, Brian Overstreet.

Montgomery is a tweener for the Packers 3-4, but Overstreet said theyve expressed interest in re-signing his client. At 6-5 and 273 pounds, Montgomery has excellent height for a 3-4 defensive end but lacks bulk 3-4 teams want their ends to be at least 290 pounds and generally prefer 300- to 310-pounders. Hes not agile enough to play in space at outside linebacker in the 3-4.

The Packers appear to be waiting to gauge the market for Montgomery before deciding whether to try to re-sign him. Overstreet said he met with Packers officials at the NFL scouting combine in late February.

They have shown some interest in him playing in the 3-4, Overstreet said. But with this being his second deal, we want to make sure thats the best scenario for him.

Kuhn has drawn early interest as a restricted free agent and has visited the Arizona Cardinals, whose head coach, Ken Whisenhunt, and assistant head coach and running-game coordinator, Russ Grimm, were offensive assistants with the Pittsburgh Steelers when Kuhn played there. Kuhn was on the Steelers practice squad in late 2005, and was with them all of 2006, including the final nine games on the 53-man roster.

The Packers claimed Kuhn off waivers at the end of training camp in 2007, and hes shared the fullback job with Korey Hall and been a special-teams regular the last two seasons.

Kuhn visited the Cardinals on Sunday and Monday. A source said Kansas City also has interest in him.

The Packers gave Kuhn the low restricted free-agent tender of $1.01 million just before the start of free agency. That gives them the right to match a contract he signs with another team or receive a draft pick in the round he was selected as compensation. However, because Kuhn entered the NFL as an undrafted rookie in 2005, the Packers wont receive any compensation if they dont match.

Kuhns agent, Kevin Gold, said Arizona appears interested enough to offer a contract. The deadline to sign another teams restricted free agent is April 17, and the team holding the players rights then has one week after the signing to match the deal.

I havent heard anything yet, Gold said Monday, but theyve kind of wined him and dined him, so I assume (a contract offer) might follow. Again, theres a time frame and they have up until a week of the draft for this to happen. John loves it where he is, but on the other hand this is part of the process.

bozz_2006
15 years ago
What the hell is your avatar? it looks like a boob.
UserPostedImage
longtimefan
15 years ago

What the hell is your avatar? it looks like a boob.

"bozz_2006" wrote:

Cheesey
15 years ago
So Ted Thompson "lost out" on Chris Canty.......so did 30 other teams.
Canty signed where HE wanted to. THats the bottom line.
UserPostedImage
Jacob
  • Jacob
  • Rookie Topic Starter
15 years ago
go.pack.go.
15 years ago
I say go for Olshansky and Holliday, then don't let John Kuhn get away, I like him as our FB.
UserPostedImage
Rios39
15 years ago
This article breaks things down nicely. The only guy I'd go hard after is Olshansky. The others are all good backup options with histories of being successful.
blank
Pack93z
15 years ago
The short sightedness of sports writers... there are more options out there.

Shaun Cody, 6-4 310, 26 year old.. can anchor, limited pass rush skills.

CJ Mosley.. 6-2 305, 25, Averages 2 sacks a year...

Ellis Wyms, 6-3 290, 29, Active big man.. averages over 2 sacks per year on the career.

Kevin Vickerson, 6-5 305, 26.. some issues with the league, but the kid is a very active player inside for the Titans.. restricted.. more of a run stuffer but I saw him in some games that he caught my attention.. risk but I think the kid has a mamoth upside.

Demetric Evans, 6-4 287, 29... Averages about 2 sacks a year and average number in tackles.. decent player.

That is just a quick query of looks.. the shelf is not as bare as they make it to be...
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Dulak
15 years ago

This article breaks things down nicely. The only guy I'd go hard after is Olshansky. The others are all good backup options with histories of being successful.

"Rios39" wrote:



ya it would be nice if we could get 1-2 DL in the FA.

and then grab jenkins in the draft (to end up replacing or filling in for harris or woodson if need be (replace as in the future if they go/retire).

Olshansky has a nice build but can he play well is the question ... be interesting to see.
Since69
15 years ago
I don't know whether or not he was ever a serious option, but Grady Jackson signed with the Lions yesterday.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
Zero2Cool (2h) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
Zero2Cool (6h) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (6h) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Recent Topics
48m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.