MintBaconDrivel
7 years ago
It is hard to argue with this.

It wouldn’t have taken much.

Add one player here, another player there. Win home-field advantage and it’s easy to picture an NFC Championship Game at Lambeau Field turning out much differently than the one played last Sunday at the Georgia Dome.

Only the Green Bay Packers under general manager Ted Thompson would rather sit on their hands than procure players … at least veteran players. Now they’ll be sitting home once again as another more aggressive franchise, this time the upstart Atlanta Falcons, represents the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Of course, Thompson is correct when he says the way to win in the National Football League is through the draft. Ron Wolf said the same thing.

No team, however, can win it all without significant player acquisition outside of the draft.

The Packers don’t win the 31st Super Bowl if Wolf doesn’t trade for Brett Favre and sign Reggie White, among many others.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago
I could've written that piece. My goodness. It's BEAUTIFUL!

This is the best part of it as it comes from a former GM:

“We all make mistakes,” said one former GM. “Maybe you can’t get better. Maybe the guy you want you can’t get, but at least you’re trying. I always felt obligation to the head coach to try.

“But that’s their (the Packers’) philosophy, and it’s worked for them because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback.”


The acolytes will scatter. Fingers in ears and hands over their eyes. Truth. Straight truth.

Here's another glorious snippet:

McCarthy, presumably Murphy and probably Thompson can bury their heads in the sand and label a 12-7 record and annihilation in the NFC title game as success for a team that opened the season as the Super Bowl co-favorite and had Rodgers play nearly every snap.

That’s just noise from a podium from people hoping their loyal fan base forever and always keeps the faith and doesn’t judge 2016 for the missed opportunity that it was.

It wouldn’t have taken much to put the Packers over the top this season. It won’t take much for them to get over the top next season.

So the ball rests squarely in Thompson’s court. For Packers fans, it must be depressing to know it’s likely little or nothing will change in the way he puts the team together.

Hint: maintaining status quo isn’t the way to the Super Bowl.



EDIT: God bless, Bob McGinn. If only we had a sea of voices saying what Bob's saying instead of the feel good we had an awesome season that our Packers culture feeds off. There is no internal pressure to get better so some external needs to be applied. Sadly, I feel like Bob... all the external pressure is just going to get guys like Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy to say... We don't pay attention to anyone outside this building. It isn't fantasy football. The rank and file will be placated while those like Bob, I and a growing number will just continue being amazed by what others aren't seeing.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


buckeyepackfan
7 years ago

It is hard to argue with this.

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



#1 Bob McGuin is an idiot.
#2 Bob McGuin lost all credibility after he penned his now infamous "The Packers can win without Aaron Rodgers" article.
#3 Who Bob? Who was out there in the 6th week of the season when it seems The Packers were losing starters faster than they could sign guys to the Practice squad?

I guess old Bob has gotten himself hooked on Madden.

REAL FOOTBALL BOB, REAL FOOTBALL!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
mojaveson
7 years ago

#1 Bob McGuin is an idiot.
#2 Bob McGuin lost all credibility after he penned his now infamous "The Packers can win without Aaron Rodgers" article.
#3 Who Bob? Who was out there in the 6th week of the season when it seems The Packers were losing starters faster than they could sign guys to the Practice squad?

I guess old Bob has gotten himself hooked on Madden.

REAL FOOTBALL BOB, REAL FOOTBALL!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I couldn't agree more. Good post. 👍


Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
Barfarn
7 years ago
With the benefit of his subterfuge, 100% hindsight and McGinn being an old man that yells at the clouds [Matub] with no personal life with nothing to do but think about and hate on Ted and this is all he’s got? This is proof Ted is the best.

Once again we cannot trust McGinn, he is just DISHONEST and anyone that fawns over DISHONESTY is either a sociopath or deranged. It’s a skill to say one thing and get the careless reader or those that are dumb with no football acumen to infer another, he could have taught Goebbels a lot about propaganda.

McGinn writes: [After citing the actual terms of the trade earlier in the article (4th Rnd or Conditional 3rd) for plausible deniability] “Belichick stole a first- or second-round talent for possibly a fourth-round pick.” In reality it’s only a 4th rounder if Rowe doesn’t play well. And Rowe was a CB picked 47, that is a middle 2nd, so that is not a 1st round talent, every GM passed on him in the 1st and half way through second.

Here’s who McSpinn says would have made a difference in Atl.:

Eric Rowe week 8 was PFFs worst rated player of all positions [not just CB]. He had better stat success against WR-less teams like SF and NYJ. Now NE gave up a 3rd rounder if Rowe is good, if bad it’s a 4th. How do we know Ted didn’t try to acquire Rowe? Obviously, giving up a 2nd rnd CB so early means he was either unteachable or a locker room problem. If the Philly GM has a choice to send Rowe to NE or GB [who they play in a few weeks and are in NFC] and both are offering a 3rd, where does he go? Correct: NE. So if Ted wanted him he had to offer more, maybe a lot more to Philly.

Cox-A lawless malcontent, who stinks [was cut week 12 and no teams wanted him]

“Antonio Cromartie-a 4 time probowler” McGinn writes [Cromartie STUNK in INDY, cut after week 4 and no teams wanted him].”

For Cox and Cromartie, McGinn says they were cut; but leaves out that these guys didn’t play after that, not one single team wanted them. Like I said Goebbels in the flesh!

We could have also signed Jamal Rolle. Cant believe McClown and his "little [uffda] me" didn't harp on that one.

It’s funny Bob had to get his anonymous stuff from an EX GM, one not in touch and not smart enough to be employed instead of a current scout or front office guy. Bet Bobby-boy called everyone he knows to get a quote to put in his notes to trash Ted and he had to settle on an old fired washed-up GM. Methinks Mike Sherman!😂 Gotcha McSpinn. 😂 Guess Mikey's still a little sore at Ted taking his job and firing his dumb ass.

And read McSpinn’s evaluation of Rodgers' ATl. Game. Rodgers played his worse game in his last 9; but better than most of his first 10 games. McGinn was way OVERLY critical, a certifiable temper tantrum, Rodgers made several very nice plays.

Here’s a fact, with the way Rodgers played QB in ATL., GB doesn’t beat Ryan even if Ted got everyone on McSpinn’s list and a roster exemption to suit up 65 guys for the game.

McGinn, just an old man yelling at the clouds-Matub
nerdmann
7 years ago
Ted will go all-in on free agency, as long as it doesn't cost him compensatory picks.

It's not a question of, "Is this player worth the money?" The question is, "Is this player worth the money, PLUS a third or fourth rounder, who will be paid as a third or fourth rounder for the next four years?"

Jared Cook? His contract was up, he was unrestricted. Didn't cost us a player with a rookie contract for four years. Same thing with Peppers. Same thing as when Ted signs Packers free agents.

It's all about value, it's all about rational calculus.

Anyone have a list of unrestricted guys?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
7 years ago

Ted will go all-in on free agency, as long as it doesn't cost him compensatory picks.

It's not a question of, "Is this player worth the money?" The question is, "Is this player worth the money, PLUS a third or fourth rounder, who will be paid as a third or fourth rounder for the next four years?"

Jared Cook? His contract was up, he was unrestricted. Didn't cost us a player with a rookie contract for four years. Same thing with Peppers. Same thing as when Ted signs Packers free agents.

It's all about value, it's all about rational calculus.

Anyone have a list of unrestricted guys?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



We probably won't get a 4th rounder for Hayward, his contract was too low. It'll be a 5th or 6th likely.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

We probably won't get a 4th rounder for Hayward, his contract was too low. It'll be a 5th or 6th likely.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Yeah, but, that 5th can be turned into two 7th rounders pretty damn fast and you know, Donald Driver was a 7th rounder. So, there's that hope.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
So. Ted's the best. Bob is a liar.

The main theme couldn't possibly true?

No one wants to take a crack at the actual theme of this post which is the method Ted uses failed us this season?

This is what we're doing or not. This is why we get guys like WR Herb Waters added as a CB.



Beyond embarrassing^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ad hominem. All over the place. Bob is 100% right. Who cares about Rowe? The main point is spot on.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Barfarn
7 years ago





Beyond embarrassing^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Are so dense and/or clouded in your judgment that you don't get that this was a joke? Mike can be one hilarious dude.
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