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DoddPower
Veteran Member

6 years ago

If we have one of the great defensive minds in football, and you look at the things shared here, you'd have to conclude these things are happening to accommodate a lack of talent on defense. What other reason could there possibly be?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Talent could be better, but Dom's schemes are archaic.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#22

Talent could be better, but Dom's schemes are archaic.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

...but our HC thinks he's one of the great minds in the game. Somebody is wrong. Us or him...OR...we don't have the players. I'm thinking we don't have the players because it sure looked good with Woodson and crew.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#23

Something I hate that goes along with what you are saying is when we bring a blitz of some sort but the CB are playing like 6-8ish yards off the WR so if the QB saw the blitz he's got an easy completion without even giving the rush a chance. Also the amount of times we play nickel or dime against heavy formations and get gashed in the run against teams with a good running game.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I can understand playing off depending on the down and distance situation. Keeping the pass in front so the CB can make the tackle short, break up the pass or jump it and get a pick. Since there is a blitz, there is at least one less defender in pass coverage so the openings are bigger, I'd give up 6 yards to prevent 20.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#24

Talent could be better, but Dom's schemes are archaic.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

There is nothing new being done by any team. Its a matter of execution.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

steveishere
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

We give up the big play anyways. Id rather put the players in position to compete for the ball and risk the big play. Sometimes it's like an aggressive looking scheme that is also trying to play it safe. Just basically letting the offense have easy stuff and hoping they make a mistake. That's why they can look so dominant against young or bad QBs and then get shredded by competent ones.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#26

There is nothing new being done by any team. Its a matter of execution.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Was there nothing fresh and/or innovative about the Falcons offensive scheme last year? They had many of the same players. Also, coaching has a lot to do with player execution. Good coaches can help their players execute more consistently than bad coaches, and put them in position to succeed more often than bad coaches. The two can't be separated. Chicken and egg.

steveishere
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#27

There is nothing new being done by any team. Its a matter of execution.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Dom needs to coach under a GM and HC who like having a bunch of old crusty veterans on the roster. It's too much to handle especially in the secondary for a team that lets overpriced vets walk and uses a lot of young guys. Or else it's not too much for young guys and he's just not teaching it well enough.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I think the Joe Whitt is a great coach hype train should've been derailed years ago, but here it is still chugging along. Shields is a star and Tramon is a nice player and it's all Whitt's doing? What about the guys who are too lengthy to mention who haven't played well under him?

We need horses. Plain and simple. Dom is a 67 year old man. Would be nice to have someone a little more relatable to the young athlete.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#29

I see now that the great Damarious Randall is actually listed as the starter opposite House. Boy, didn't Davon really earn that #1 CB spot this TC and pre-season? LOL

God help us with Damarious Randall as a starting CB in this league.

Perhaps, the starter opposite House will change 2 or 3 more times before we hit the field. Whomever it is is on the shortest leash imaginable.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#30

God help us with Damarious Randall as a starting CB in this league.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I had a flashback remembering people saying the exact same thing about Aaron Rodgers at QB when he was HORRIBLE in his second preseason.

No, I'm not meaning to directly comparing the two... but in general, we can say that about a lot of young players... some of which completely bust out, and some that later become pretty good like TJ Lang and Aaron Rodgers as well as others.

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