KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
6 years ago
Was it just me, or did Spriggs play his second decent game in a row. I know they were giving him help, but his blocking, especially on the run, seemed to be vastly improved over the pre-IR version. Also, the line seems to be sticking with blocks longer. Perhaps when they sense there is are RB's who can make things happen, they are more motivated to sustain blocks.....thoughts?
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Porforis
6 years ago

Was it just me, or did Spriggs play his second decent game in a row. I know they were giving him help, but his blocking, especially on the run, seemed to be vastly improved over the pre-IR version. Also, the line seems to be sticking with blocks longer. Perhaps when they sense there is are RB's who can make things happen, they are more motivated to sustain blocks.....thoughts?

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I feel like we've had a RB that can make things happen pretty consistently for years, why the change now? I am glad to see we almost never run those slow-developing outside runs anymore that we almost always get tackled for a loss for. Running it down their throat seems to be working, hopefully we stick with it.
PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago
We are a passing team typically so they spend most of their time pass blocking. Now When they plan to run more, practice to run more, and actually do run more, offensive lineman get better at run blocking.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
beast
6 years ago

Perhaps when they sense there is are RB's who can make things happen, they are more motivated to sustain blocks.....thoughts?

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Saints starting Center said he learned the hard way that their rookie RB doesn't go down easily... because I guess as an OL, you pull up when you think a guy is going to go down to not get pulled for playing past the whistle on a block... but he pulled up and got NAILED... because the RB would be fighting for extra yardage and so they had to fight for longer (same with pass protection when you got a good mobile QB)

That in theory could very well be true for Williams. But I also agree with PFWT (at the bottom) that the linemen get better at someone when the scheme and playcalling demands that they NEED to be good at it, and that's why I believe some of Rodgers extra long holding onto the ball, while he creates amazing big plays with it... it also demands the OL to focus on pass blocking and takes their focus away from run blocking.

So that they're setting up for pass blocking the entire time... then from that pass blocking stance, they struggle to get great run blocks... and if they chance up their stances on that one play, then the other team knows it's gonna be a run.

Which is why I kinda like Stanford idea, of having a completely different stances for their OL on goal line/3rd and short, etc.

We are a passing team typically so they spend most of their time pass blocking. Now When they plan to run more, practice to run more, and actually do run more, offensive lineman get better at run blocking.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 




UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
6 years ago
Spriggs is doing better. It probably helped that the line judge on his side of the field missed most of the game so it was harder to call any penalties on him. But it was good to see he wasn't a revolving door for the DE.
UserPostedImage
yooperfan
6 years ago

Saints starting Center said he learned the hard way that their rookie RB doesn't go down easily... because I guess as an OL, you pull up when you think a guy is going to go down to not get pulled for playing past the whistle on a block... but he pulled up and got NAILED... because the RB would be fighting for extra yardage and so they had to fight for longer (same with pass protection when you got a good mobile QB)

That in theory could very well be true for Williams. But I also agree with PFWT (at the bottom) that the linemen get better at someone when the scheme and playcalling demands that they NEED to be good at it, and that's why I believe some of Rodgers extra long holding onto the ball, while he creates amazing big plays with it... it also demands the OL to focus on pass blocking and takes their focus away from run blocking.

So that they're setting up for pass blocking the entire time... then from that pass blocking stance, they struggle to get great run blocks... and if they chance up their stances on that one play, then the other team knows it's gonna be a run.

Which is why I kinda like Stanford idea, of having a completely different stances for their OL on goal line/3rd and short, etc.


Originally Posted by: beast 


So, if there was more balance between the pass and the run the offensive line would be forced to become better run blockers?
This makes some sense.
McCarthy likes to talk a balanced run/pass game, he rarely goes with the run for any amount of snaps even if it's working, he usually reverts to a pass heavy offense.
This may be confusing to the offensive linemen affecting their blocking schemes.
Since I'm not stat centric, I have no stats to support this.

Barfarn
6 years ago

Was it just me, or did Spriggs play his second decent game in a row. I know they were giving him help, but his blocking, especially on the run, seemed to be vastly improved over the pre-IR version. Also, the line seems to be sticking with blocks longer. Perhaps when they sense there is are RB's who can make things happen, they are more motivated to sustain blocks.....thoughts?

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I’d rate Spriggs as just about average, maybe a tad below, but most importantly he’s ascending.

There should be no surprise. People just need to resist allowing the loudmouth idiocy or childish expectations pollute solid rational football thought and adult expectations.

Spriggs with great measurable was drafted in 2nd. This means his college tape shows a late 3rd, 4th or 5th round quality; he’s a project. Bahktieri showed 1st round quality; but he was too short, too slow, etc to ever be any good; well at least according to the “experts.” If Spriggs’ tape showed him as good and ready as Bahk’s; he’d have been a top 10 pick.

These are Spriggs’ 1st 2 starts at OT. Some guys dont play as well coming in cold; but what’s most important to realize, is that if you’re not starting it means you didn’t get but a handful of reps that week. The lack of reps makes it difficult for young players to perform but its catastrophic for certain positions like OT. Last year after getting most of his reps at OT, he was thrown in at Guard, so his 2 starts were disappointing; but that should not have been unexpected or used to dominate an opine about his upside.
PackFanWithTwins
6 years ago
Sprigg's needs to put on 15-20lbs of meat.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (1h) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
    Zero2Cool (2h) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
    Zero2Cool (2h) : Insane about Kingsley
    dfosterf (5h) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
    dfosterf (5h) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
    dfosterf (5h) : We got Peter Bowde
    dfosterf (6h) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
    dfosterf (6h) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
    beast (17h) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
    Mucky Tundra (18h) : damn those vikings
    beast (18h) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
    beast (19h) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
    beast (19h) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
    beast (19h) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
    TheKanataThrilla (19h) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
    dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
    TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
    dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
    Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
    Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
    Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
    Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
    Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
    Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
    beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
    Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
    Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
    beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
    beast (25-Apr) : Fuck
    Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later
    TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD
    Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.
    Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.
    TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight
    TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?
    Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk
    Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : I hope they take a Punter at 9th overall. Be bold!
    Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I may end up eating those words but I think they need a lot more talent then their 4 picks can provide
    Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I really hope they stand pat and Draft a WR
    Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : @DMRussini
    Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : The Chicago Bears are very open for business at 9 and telling teams they are ready to move for the right price, per source
    buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil
    buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and
    Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!
    dfosterf (24-Apr) : (Your trade up mock post)
    dfosterf (24-Apr) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol
    beast (24-Apr) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)
    Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : What? And who?
    Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*
    Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2023 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Falcons
    Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
    SAINTS
    Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
    LIONS
    Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
    Raiders
    Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
    RAMS
    Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
    CHARGERS
    Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
    CHIEFS
    Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
    BUCCANEERS
    Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
    Panthers
    Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
    Vikings
    Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
    Cowboys
    Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
    49ers
    Recent Topics
    9m / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

    17m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    47m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    53m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    55m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    57m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    59m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    27-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.