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Green Bay Packers ( 6 - 6 )
[list]Total Offense = 25th
Passing Offense = 27th
Rushing Offense = 16th

Total Defense = 24th
Passing Defense = 26th
Rushing Defense = 14th

Points For = 21.5 (20th)
Points Against = 23.4 (17th)[/list]


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Cleveland Browns ( 0 - 12 )
[list]Total Offense = 24th
Passing Offense = 23rd
Rushing Offense = 19th

Total Defense = 10th
Passing Defense = 17th
Rushing Defense = 6th

Points For = 14.7 (32nd)
Points Against = 25.7 (27th)[/list]

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



Hmmm. Members have been comparing GB to Cleveland for a few weeks. It sure looks like their stats are VERY comparable. The GB offense would be worse if we removed the games Aaron played in. The Cleveland defense appears to be stronger than the GB defense.

This is not going to be a "gimme" for GB. If Hundley has only 84 yards again it is going to be a long long long sad day.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Hmmm. Members have been comparing GB to Cleveland for a few weeks. It sure looks like their stats are VERY comparable. The GB offense would be worse if we removed the games Aaron played in. The Cleveland defense appears to be stronger than the GB defense.

This is not going to be a "gimme" for GB. If Hundley has only 84 yards again it is going to be a long long long sad day.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



So the Browns aren't much worse than the Packers and the Packers have been picking towards the end of the rounds and Browns picking in in the top. [rock]
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uffda udfa
6 years ago
The Browns have a Top 10 defense.

We have been pumping incredible resources into ours for years and it's 24th.

Browns should have a Top 10 D and do. So should we...and don't.

We pay a franchise QB...they don't. Biggest difference all the way around. Cleveland is better than us if you flip QBs.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


DoddPower
6 years ago

The Browns have a Top 10 defense.

We have been pumping incredible resources into ours for years and it's 24th.

Browns should have a Top 10 D and do. So should we...and don't.

We pay a franchise QB...they don't. Biggest difference all the way around. Cleveland is better than us if you flip QBs.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I can't think of many teams that this wouldn't apply. Trading Aaron Rodgers for a lesser QB dramatically changes everything.
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

The Browns have a Top 10 defense.

We have been pumping incredible resources into ours for years and it's 24th.

Browns should have a Top 10 D and do. So should we...and don't.

We pay a franchise QB...they don't. Biggest difference all the way around. Cleveland is better than us if you flip QBs.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



There's not enough context in this statement to take it seriously.
Quit wasting our time with your no substance statements.

Let me give you this one.
EVERY PLAYER RIGHT DOWN TO THE LAST GUY ON THE PRACTICE SQUAD OF EVERY TEAM IS A,WORLD CLASS ATHLETE!
The difference in players are their football skills and coaching.
There is a very thin line between winning and losing, that is where "On Any Given Sunday" comes from.
Ted Thompson drafted Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy and his staff prepared him for The NFL, Aaron Rodgers has honed his skills to a level rarely seen the past 13 years.
This was all done within The Packer Organization.
Flipping qb's to try and prove a point is not reality.
Try dealing in reality.
Try again!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
uffda udfa
6 years ago

There's not enough context in this statement to take it seriously.
Quit wasting our time with your no substance statements.

Let me give you this one.
EVERY PLAYER RIGHT DOWN TO THE LAST GUY ON THE PRACTICE SQUAD OF EVERY TEAM IS A,WORLD CLASS ATHLETE!
The difference in players are their football skills and coaching.
There is a very thin line between winning and losing, that is where "On Any Given Sunday" comes from.
Ted Thompson drafted Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy and his staff prepared him for The NFL, Aaron Rodgers has honed his skills to a level rarely seen the past 13 years.
This was all done within The Packer Organization.
Flipping qb's to try and prove a point is not reality.
Try dealing in reality.
Try again!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



No substance or not interested in talking about it because there's no rebuttal for you? Who has the Top 10 Defense? Cleveland. Who has tried and tried and tried again dumping multiple 1st rounders and high picks to have a bottom 10 defense? Green Bay. Whose offense is awful without Aaron Rodgers? Green Bay's. You want context grade EVERY QB Mike McCarthy worked with in Green Bay. Don't cherry pick the GOAT who was to be a 1st overall and spin that success into organizational success or MMs. Always trying to obfuscate and circumvent context posting the most basest of the base and acting as if it's profound.

All NFL players are world class athletes? Ummm. No. Not even close. Don't deify these guys my goodness...that's the majority of the issue right there.

Thin line between being Cleveland or New England? If so, we'd be seeing them taking turns being great and terrible. There is excellence in coaching and incompetence. That line is not thin. There is a wide chasm in talent differential from Antonio Brown to Geronimo Allison. You're negating true talent and lumping everyone together and did same with coaching to fit one of the craziest responses I've ever received. Couldn't be more wrong on both counts.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

No substance or not interested in talking about it because there's no rebuttal for you? Who has the Top 10 Defense? Cleveland. Who has tried and tried and tried again dumping multiple 1st rounders and high picks to have a bottom 10 defense? Green Bay. Whose offense is awful without Aaron Rodgers? Green Bay's. You want context grade EVERY QB Mike McCarthy worked with in Green Bay. Don't cherry pick the GOAT who was to be a 1st overall and spin that success into organizational success or MMs. Always trying to obfuscate and circumvent context posting the most basest of the base and acting as if it's profound.

All NFL players are world class athletes? Ummm. No. Not even close. Don't deify these guys my goodness...that's the majority of the issue right there.

Thin line between being Cleveland or New England? If so, we'd be seeing them taking turns being great and terrible. There is excellence in coaching and incompetence. That line is not thin. There is a wide chasm in talent differential from Antonio Brown to Geronimo Allison. You're negating true talent and lumping everyone together and did same with coaching to fit one of the craziest responses I've ever received. Couldn't be more wrong on both counts.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



And once again you ignore the fact that your whole post is based in absolute fantasy.
YOU CANNOT FLIP QB'S AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
REALITY DUDE
DEAL WITH REALITY!
I see once again you are trying to hi-jack a thread and make it all about you.
Give your Damn prediction and move on.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

The Browns have a Top 10 defense.

We have been pumping incredible resources into ours for years and it's 24th.

Browns should have a Top 10 D and do. So should we...and don't.

We pay a franchise QB...they don't. Biggest difference all the way around. Cleveland is better than us if you flip QBs.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You don't think picking at the top of every round helps? My goodness, you for realz??

Picking in top 5 or bottom 10 every season. There's a HUGE difference. HUGE!!! You heard me, HUGE!

But seriously, that's messed up to ignore. Cleveland should be better than the Packers if you flip QB's because they've been drafting towards the top of every round in every draft. That's not a stretch.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

The Browns have a Top 10 defense.

We have been pumping incredible resources into ours for years and it's 24th.

Browns should have a Top 10 D and do. So should we...and don't.

We pay a franchise QB...they don't. Biggest difference all the way around. Cleveland is better than us if you flip QBs.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Browns are 27th in defense. Remember this, points are what wins and loses games, not yards. This is probably why some around here think you know nothing about football!! 😂 😝 🤷 [rock]

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uffda udfa
6 years ago
Of course it makes a difference where you pick in each round. Cleveland should have better young talent and they do on both sides of the ball.

No one likes talking about our 24th ranked D. Why is it 24th, and terrible? Old question but goes unanswered every time.

I like the Browns new FO personnel. 2 picks in Top 8 next draft. Get rid of Hue and get a legit staff and they'll be very different.

Gordon and Coleman is an electric WR duo and both TEs are better than our best. Njoku and DeValve are good young players. Duke can ball and OL when intact is better than ours. Their D is better than ours. QB...that's it. Get QB and better staff and look out.
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