nerdmann
3 years ago
They might be thinking of Jenkins as the new LT. Younger, would save a shit ton of cap space, which is at a premium right now.

Just sayin.
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Cheesey
3 years ago

Damn the Texans! Their GM make an extremely important error, not locking up LT Tunsil new contract when they traded for him, and followed it up by extremely over paying market value for him... and now Bak wants to beat that.

Only two OTs in all of football is earning more than $16.5 million per year... (though they might be a number in the coming years about to break that).

We can't give everyone over market deals, we just can't... but can we afford to not resign Bak as well? We let Bulaga go, any RT looks like a mess, other than some fans suggesting the MAYBE Jenkins is the long term starter there, but that's speculation and that would open an LG hole.

We need to draft more OTs, DTs and CBs that's for damn sure...

Originally Posted by: beast 


These contracts are getting out of control.
At some point, you have to say NO.
I wish it was more like the 1960s, when guys played for the love of the game. They had to take jobs during the summer to make enough to get by.
Now they are multi millionaires trying to out do other multi millionaires.

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yooperfan
3 years ago
As much as I like Bhaktieri that’s simply too much money to shell out for him!
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3 years ago
What he would like to get and what he ultimately will settle for are two different numbers. I would like to get $22 mil a year too. I won't Bak won't either. Not even no the open market. Especially not with the cap shrinking next year. He will get around $18 a year. Still pretty elite money.
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beast
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3 years ago
I could be wrong, but I'd guess guys in the 1960s were trying to get as much money as they could too...

And Packers are in a tough spot, I don't think we can have questions at both OT spots. Jenkins might be able to solve one, but I'm thinking more RT than LT.

Bak probably can get top of the market deal from one of the teams with a lot of cap space, he is elite enough. Depends on how bullheaded he is about getting too of market price.

Of course, you could probably pay muliple other guys, but they wouldn't be nearly as good as Bak.
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go.pack.go.
3 years ago
Best left tackle in football deserves to be paid like it. He’s been pretty durable too.

I love Aaron Jones but he would be easier to replace than Bak.
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3 years ago

Best left tackle in football deserves to be paid like it. He’s been pretty durable too.

I love Aaron Jones but he would be easier to replace than Bak.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Yes the best LT deserve to be paid like the best, but that implies that the 11th best OT doesn't get paid 33% more than any other current LT contract, because that was a bit ridiculous price hike, meaning he didn't deserve that mega contract, so not everyone gets what they deserve, some get more, some get less.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I'd just like to point out that if the Packers and Rodgers took the contract I offered up as an option, both parties would be better off. Jus. Sayin!!

I could be wrong, but I'd guess guys in the 1960s were trying to get as much money as they could too...

And Packers are in a tough spot, I don't think we can have questions at both OT spots. Jenkins might be able to solve one, but I'm thinking more RT than LT.

Bak probably can get top of the market deal from one of the teams with a lot of cap space, he is elite enough. Depends on how bullheaded he is about getting too of market price.

Of course, you could probably pay muliple other guys, but they wouldn't be nearly as good as Bak.

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Yes, the players have always tried to get as much as they could. Back then, there wasn't that big of a slice of pie to argue over. Football in the 60's was less of a career choice than a hobby. Players in today's game do charity work, commercials, etc during the off-season. Players in the 60's often went to work a summer job.

Bakhtiari shouldn't be paid Tunsil money by the Packers. I like him. I hate to lose him as a Packers fan. I just feel the salary cap is gonna take a dip and we're already bent over the barrel for our amazing QB.

2021 LT Cap Hits 
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  • Jake Matthews $20.2 million
  • DJ Humphries $19.9 million
  • Laremy Tunsil $19.4 million
  • Nate Solder $16.4 million
  • Terron Armstead $16.2 million[/list]

  • I don't know how we can Bakhtiari. Packers only have ~$6 million in salary cap space for 2021. We have over 30% of the cap used up in two guys. Za'Darius Smith and Aaron Rodgers.

    I'm thinking we'll need to do something with some of these contracts to alleviate some of the cap space. I wouldn't expect any deal with Bakhtiari until we hear bout some of the contracts being restructured.
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    porky88
    3 years ago
    The idea that guys in the '60s played for the love and not the money is just silly. Yes, you had those playing for love and you have those playing for love right now. They all (collectively) wanted to get paid. The market was very different back then. You didn't have TV deals on the scope they are now and the teams weren't generating the revenue then that they are now. We went through a football boom and it's been consistently growing since the 1990s. The cash is trickling down to the players. FYI, this is very much how the free market works. While the NFL doesn't always embrace this philosophy (e.g., revenue sharing), it certainly should reward its employees for continuously putting on product with a ton of demand. The idea is to see more cash flow to the employer, so he or she can reward his or her employees. We should not exempt professional sports from this methodology.

    This brings me to Bakhtiari. Is 20M per year for a OLT a lot of money? Yes, if we compare it to the current market. Did the Texans over inflate the market? Yes, they absolutely did. Will 20M be lot of money for an OLT in 4 or 5 years? I think not. You look at the steady growth of contracts in the NFL, especially for OLTs, and it is trending upward. It may hit us for a year or two (as I do think revenue will dip due to the Pandemic), but the contract will look better and better as things return to normal and cap goes back up.

    Additionally, this is the second most important position on the offense. When it comes to roster-building, teams want to throw the ball and stop the pass. This means QB, pass protection, pass rush, and pass defense. In that context, Aaron Rodgers, David Bakhtiarii, Za'Darius Smith, and Jaire Alexander are probably the most valuable Packers in terms of roster-building. I would not let any of them go at this time.
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