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2 years ago

The competition for starting jobs at left and right guard along the Green Bay Packers offensive line has turned into a three-player race. Packers coach Matt LaFleur pointed to Lucas Patrick, Royce Newman and Jon Runyan as the top three candidates to start at the two guard positions to open the 2021 …

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I think they're high on Newman but rolling with two rookies on the o-line might be hard. Runyan hasn't stepped up to show he's capable of starting but I think we've seen what Patrick can bring to the table and they're looking for more.
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I think Patrick will be the odd man out.
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2 years ago

I think Patrick will be the odd man out.

Originally Posted by: KRK 


I've said if the other step up enough, I think they'll be shopping Patrick in a trade... but I'm not sure the others have stepped up enough.

I'm wondering which one they have as the odd one clearly out.
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I had thought, all things being close to equal, Patrick costs more in terms of salary cap, salary, etc., and had less upside.
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2 years ago

I had thought, all things being close to equal, Patrick costs more in terms of salary cap, salary, etc., and had less upside.

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I was thinking the same thing. I think they would prefer Runyan to beat him out and move on from Patrick but Runyan hasn't shown himself capable yet.
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...And taking a college tackle in the fourth round who turns into a great NFL offensive lineman (see Josh Sitton, TJ Lang, JC Tretter, David Bakhtiari).

The most recent fourth-round college tackle the Packers drafted, Royce Newman, seems to have unseated 2020 starter Lucas Patrick in the starting lineup. If the Packers trade Patrick and keep someone like Ben Braden instead, they could save over $1 Million on the salary cap this season.


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SI mentioned in regard to PFF analytics

Offensive Line

Of the 73 offensive tackles with at least 40 pass-protecting snaps, Yosh Nijman finished 15th in pass-blocking efficiency, which measures sacks, hits and hurries allowed per pass-blocking snap. He allowed one sack and one hit for two total pressures in 88 passing plays while facing a lot of starting defenders. With David Bakhtiari’s immediate future on the roster in question but veteran Dennis Kelly perhaps good to go for the coming week, Nijman has played well enough to make the 53. Ben Braden was the other tackle to meet that playing-time threshold. He was 40th with one sack, one hit and five total pressures in 80 pass-protecting snaps.


Of the 81 guards with at least 40 pass-protecting snaps, rookie right guard Royce Newman tied for first in pass-blocking efficiency. He didn’t allow a single pressure in 42 passing plays. Veteran Lucas Patrick finished 31st with one pressure in 41 passing plays. Jon Runyan was 57th with three pressures in 53 snaps. Between pass protecting and run blocking, Newman, for what it’s worth, was the No. 1-graded offensive lineman overall. Presumably, after starting the last two preseason games, he will be the Week 1 starter. Will it be with Patrick, a proven commodity who had a high-quality season at right guard last year, or Runyan?

It would seem, according to PFF anyway, Royce Newman looks like he would have won the job.
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