dhazer
14 years ago
Lmao why is this in the Packer section? We all know uncle Teddy won't sign a free agent that would be a starter.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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beast
14 years ago

We all know uncle Teddy won't sign a free agent that would be a starter.

"dhazer" wrote:



We all know dhazer will take shots at Thompson that aren't true.

I mean because Teddy would never sign Pickett or Woodson.... never...

We got the guys now... let them grow... (move Colledge to OT)
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RaiderPride
14 years ago

We all know uncle Teddy won't sign a free agent that would be a starter.

"beast" wrote:



We all know dhazer will take shots at Thompson that aren't true.

I mean because Teddy would never sign Pickett or Woodson.... never...

We got the guys now... let them grow... (move Colledge to OT)

"dhazer" wrote:



There is more to Ted's Job than signing free agents who will start.

Very few people could discribe his exact job duties and areas of accountabilty, and responsibilty in detail.

Me included.... But it is far more than signing Free Agents who can start.


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Pack93z
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14 years ago

You sign a guy like this, not that I am dying to sign this particular player, to come in and compete in camp, push the others, and give the coaching staff more options. If he is one of the best options on the team, you keep him on the roster.. if he performs even or marginally better than the younger guys, you waive him. It isn't like we are going to throw a multi-million dollar signing bonus at him.

"beast" wrote:




I get your point of more options is a good thing and I agree. I just don't like the Jones option.

Also I think the best options are looking for guys that will have stuff in the tank for years to come and aren't injury prone.

"pack93z" wrote:



Here is the only thing I will rebut with.. if there are no "risks" to a player that has his resume, then there is no way you can sign them for a reasonable team friendly contract.

A lesser scale of Charles Woodson..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I think this is yet another illustration of how the 80-man roster rule is really hampering teams' ability to evaluate talent. I would love to bring in more OLmen for a healthy competition, but the roster limit has already forced the Packers to make some hard decisions.

(Of course, it's possible that the guy we just released has an undisclosed injury, which may come to light when he attempts to sign with another team. We don't know the whole story.)
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14 years ago

I think this is yet another illustration of how the 80-man roster rule is really hampering teams' ability to evaluate talent.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



100% agreed, it really is not one I understand why they decided to do.

Looking at the balance of the current roster.. I seriously don't understand the mix. WR heavy that is.

We all understand the numbers at backer.. but IMO we need better quality of options at the Oline.

I trust this personnel staff.. but it doesn't and won't stop me from wondering out loud. :icon_smile:
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
It was clearly an accounting decision to save money. I'm sure it's expensive housing all those players, feeding them premium food, paying their transportation costs, paying their training camp salaries, etc. But I have to think it's minuscule compared to the overall cost of running a team for an NFL season.

But these days "efficiencies" reign supreme. And even a 0.4% cost reduction looks good on the resume.
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beast
14 years ago

You sign a guy like this, not that I am dying to sign this particular player, to come in and compete in camp, push the others, and give the coaching staff more options. If he is one of the best options on the team, you keep him on the roster.. if he performs even or marginally better than the younger guys, you waive him. It isn't like we are going to throw a multi-million dollar signing bonus at him.

"pack93z" wrote:




I get your point of more options is a good thing and I agree. I just don't like the Jones option.

Also I think the best options are looking for guys that will have stuff in the tank for years to come and aren't injury prone.

"beast" wrote:



Here is the only thing I will rebut with.. if there are no "risks" to a player that has his resume, then there is no way you can sign them for a reasonable team friendly contract.

A lesser scale of Charles Woodson..

"pack93z" wrote:




Well their is a fine line between people think your done and being done.... I still think he's done...

I still think we should stick with Giacomini, Barbre or Lang.... or even better Colledge at RT and Lang at LG. (I really don't understand why not Colledge at RT and Lang at LG.)



I think this is yet another illustration of how the 80-man roster rule is really hampering teams' ability to evaluate talent.

"pack93z" wrote:



100% agreed, it really is not one I understand why they decided to do.

Looking at the balance of the current roster.. I seriously don't understand the mix. WR heavy that is.

We all understand the numbers at backer.. but IMO we need better quality of options at the Oline.

I trust this personnel staff.. but it doesn't and won't stop me from wondering out loud. :icon_smile:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Well part of the WR thing is they did need more camp bodies at WR.... but not that many more... I don't get it ether.... really seems like their gonna keep 6 WRs or and more likely be parting with one the 5 that were on last year roster.... weather it's Jones and he's knee... Driver and age... Jennings and his contract (it better not be Jennings) or Martin and his lack of great talent and lack of using the talent he does have to his best that he could.

I'm betting Nelson is safe.... (Jennings should be too)....
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dfosterf
14 years ago

We don't know the whole story.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




I chopped your post to get to my favorite part.

We never do.

All of it is open for discussion, on this very tiny facet of the big picture, and all other little tiny facets of the big picture, from draft picks (I think we learn about 60%, but that is a wild-assed guess) to the locker room chemistry, player attitudes amongst each other and mgmt., and on and on and on and on....

+1 For one of the best e-post-it-notes on this forum.

I just wish it came in a tattoo version. :icon_smile:
dfosterf
14 years ago

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We all understand the numbers at backer.. but IMO we need better quality of options at the Oline.

"pack93z" wrote:



Now THIS one I chopped for entertainment value.

I think Z might appreciate my perspective and motivation. :thumbleft:


EDIT--

And a plus 1 to you also, for affording me this opportunity.
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