Pack93z
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14 years ago
And yes.. this is more boredom than anything.. and a slight pet peeve.

When Raji signs late today, it will all be for not.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago
To my knowledge there have been no "out of slot" contracts signed.

I could be wrong, and would invite any examples anyone wishes to provide.

This is important, because if the reports about Crabtree are true...

As I have stated, it is MOST likely to impact the sign-ability of Raji in the slot just under him, more so than ANY OTHER first-round pick.

You are Raji's agent...

Do you tell him to sign now, or wait and see what happens with the pick that was behind you, with all the reports indicating that he is negotiating to get 3 slot $$$.

If you advise your client to sign, and that 10 pick gets a much better contract than you got your client, do you think that would impact your ability to get future clients?
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14 years ago
It is an interesting situation dfosterf. But if Crabtree continues to insist on slot 3 money he will not be signed for a long time. If Raji's agent want him to hold out until after the Crabtree signing he could be waiting a very long time.
I do not see the possible arrogance of one player, who is not even your client, effecting the ability for agents to land new clients in the future.
Raji will not be held captive by Crabtree's negotiation. They will have the 6,7 & 8 slots above and the 11,12 & 13 slots below to use as guides.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
WPR wrote:

Raji will not be held captive by Crabtree's negotiation. They will have the 6,7 & 8 slots above and the 11,12 & 13 slots below to use as guides.



If that was the case right now, there would be no problem.

Here is what is KNOWN about those slots:

6 slot Andre Smith unsigned

7 slot DHB-- 5 yrs 23.5 million guarantee value of contract undisclosed. The closest slot that we know the value of is the 5 slot (Sanchez) who got 28m guaranteed and a 60 MILLION dollar contract

8 slot Eugene Monroe unsigned

11 slot Aaron Maybin Unsigned

12 slot Moreno unsigned

13 slot Orakpo TERMS UNDISCLOSED

14,15,16 unsigned

17 TERMS UNDISCLOSED

18,19,20 unsigned

21 Mack 5 yrs rest of terms undisclosed.

Now how much do you pay him.

?

Training camp starts tomorrow.
dhazer
14 years ago
Redskins | Orakpo contract details
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Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:42:09 -0700

Updating previous reports, Adam Schefter, of ESPN.com, reports the Washington Redskins deal with rookie LB Brian Orakpo is worth $20 million over five years, and it includes $12.1 million in guarantees.



Buccaneers | Freeman agrees to five-year deal
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ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have reached a five-year deal with rookie QB Josh Freeman, the team's first-round draft choice. The deal is worth $36 million, including $10.245 million in guarantees.

Rams | Contract update: J. Smith
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Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams OT Jason Smith signed a five-year deal that is worth just under $62 million if incentives are met. The contract includes $33 million in guaranteed money


and a little sad note not related to this


Packers | Simmons released
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The Green Bay Packers announced they have released WR Jamarko Simmons from the team.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dfosterf
14 years ago

WPR wrote:

Raji will not be held captive by Crabtree's negotiation. They will have the 6,7 & 8 slots above and the 11,12 & 13 slots below to use as guides.

"dfosterf" wrote:



If that was the case right now, there would be no problem.

Here is what is KNOWN about those slots:

6 slot Andre Smith unsigned

7 slot DHB-- 5 yrs 23.5 million guarantee value of contract undisclosed. The closest slot that we know the value of is the 5 slot (Sanchez) who got 28m guaranteed and a 60 MILLION dollar contract

8 slot Eugene Monroe unsigned

11 slot Aaron Maybin Unsigned

12 slot Moreno unsigned

13 slot Orakpo [strike]TERMS UNDISCLOSED
[/strike] EDIT---Using Dhazes numbers 5yrs 20 mil 12.1 mil guaranteed

14,15,16 unsigned

17 [strike]TERMS UNDISCLOSED
[/strike] EDIT---Using Dhazes numbers 36mil 10.245 mil guaranteed

18,19,20 unsigned

21 Mack 5 yrs rest of terms undisclosed.

Now how much do you pay him.

?

Training camp starts tomorrow.



OK updating with Dhazes numbers -- FAIRLY DANGEROUS TO DO--see our arguments when he starts tacking 5mil PER year on every one of our signings, lol lol lol

Also, I will add 1 Stafford 6yrs 72 million 41.7 million guaranteed

We now have 2 Dhaze's numbers Jason Smith 5yrs 62 mil 33 mil guaranteed

SO...

If Crabtree is seeking something just under 5 yrs 62mil 33 mil guaranteed

...However much on drugs him and his agent might be...

Question remains the same...
dhazer
14 years ago
i got the numbers off kffl.com smartass lol

your lucky i feel sorry for you cuz your stuck out here in Steeler country :p

I'm tempted to head up to Latrobe tomorrow for the start of there camp, but i have to find a different car to drive. I don't think the packer pissing on the Steelers would go over very well there lol.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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wpr
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14 years ago
dfosterf I know, I know. Raji may not be signed by the opening of camp. I am only saying that they (The player, his agent and the Packers organization) don't have to sit and wait on Crabtree to sign before they make their move.
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Pack93z
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14 years ago

dfosterf I know, I know. Raji may not be signed by the opening of camp. I am only saying that they (The player, his agent and the Packers organization) don't have to sit and wait on Crabtree to sign before they make their move.

"wpr" wrote:



That was the premise of the whole thread.. lol.. that we don't have to allow the market and timeline dictate the process to us.. we, as other clubs have shown, can be proactive and push the deals along.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wpr
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14 years ago

dfosterf I know, I know. Raji may not be signed by the opening of camp. I am only saying that they (The player, his agent and the Packers organization) don't have to sit and wait on Crabtree to sign before they make their move.

"pack93z" wrote:



That was the premise of the whole thread.. lol.. that we don't have to allow the market and timeline dictate the process to us.. we, as other clubs have shown, can be proactive and push the deals along.

"wpr" wrote:



See how smart I am ::roll: I figured that out.

I agree by the way. I wish GB was a little quicker on the draw when it come to getting their players signed. I wanted them all to be signed 1 week after the draft. I know it is not possible but it sure would be nice if it was.
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