Should we rely upon James Jones more?· Page 5

nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

I think less Jordy will mean more running the ball.

"dhazer" wrote:

I hope you are correct young man.

"nerdmann" wrote:

I hope you're not.

I still can't grasp the concept of staying with a constantly struggling running game while we have this passing game. It's like the Patriots constantly running Maroney or the Colts constantly giving the ball to Addai, but then on a smaller scale.

WCO --> Short routes substitute for the run to some extent --> Opens up deep routes and stops pass rush.

Just go for the short passing game. It works wonder with our receivers and quarterback.

Of course I don't want us to completely abandon the running game. I'm pretty happy with where we are now. Just running it enough to keep the defense on their heels, stop the all out rush and tire them a little, yet, we're still an obvious passing team. As we should be.

Sucks that Jordy is out, btw. Maybe it's some sort of vicious cycle where our 3rd receivers keep getting injured, giving the 4th more playing time, bumping him up to 3rd...

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Jones could be a #1 reciever on alot of teams. He's that good. It's just that he's stuck behind Jennings and Driver. We've got 4 guys who could be #1 WRs in the NFL. Plus Finley.

"yooperfan" wrote:

I was wondering if you could be nice and share whatever you are smoking and drinking because with a statement like that you have to be doing both things lol. There is no way in hell Jordy or Jones is a #1 wr.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Glad to share, but he is that good. MARK IT DOWN!

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nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#42

Finley and Lee are capable receivers, so Jordy's loss hurts more on special teams than it does as a receiver.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:

Yeah, i was really looking forward to see Nelson take over KR duties, i think he will do really well there when he's back and healthy.

"nerdmann" wrote:

People can bitch about Ted Thompson all they want, and there are legitimate issues, such as the T position. But this team has alot of depth at quite a few positions. WR and KR are two of them.
Blackmon, Nelson, Tramone, Swain, Woody. Those are just the top 5. I remember when Sherman couldn't buy a returner. Remember Allen Rossum? LOL.

"earthquake" wrote:

Probably should check your facts, Rossum was a pretty damn good returner.
I rememeber right, he left via Fa to Atlanta and continued on a pretty good career. Hell after checking , he is still playing.

Kick Return
Year Team G Ret Yds Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM
2009 San Francisco 49ers 3 7 152 21.7 40 0 5 1 0 0

2008 San Francisco 49ers 13 47 1,259 26.8 104T 1 36 4 0 0

2007 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 38 885 23.3 98T 1 26 1 0 0

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 46 1,082 23.5 51 0 34 3 0 2

2005 Atlanta Falcons 10 31 702 22.6 47 0 20 1 0 0

2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 58 1,250 21.6 49 0 36 1 0 0

2003 Atlanta Falcons 16 62 1,291 20.8 52 0 39 2 0 2

2002 Atlanta Falcons 14 53 1,164 22.0 91T 1 26 4 0 1

2001 Green Bay Packers 6 23 431 18.7 27 0 10 0 0 0

2000 Green Bay Packers 16 50 1,288 25.8 92T 1 33 4 0 0

1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 54 1,347 24.9 89T 1 33 5 0 3

1998 Philadelphia Eagles 15 44 1,080 24.5 54 0 31 2 0 1

TOTAL 156 513 11,931 23.3 104 5 329 28 0 9

Punt Return
Year Team G Ret RetY Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM
2009 San Francisco 49ers 3 12 84 7.0 14 0 0 0 1 0

2008 San Francisco 49ers 13 15 223 14.9 45 0 3 1 7 0

2007 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 36 232 6.4 49 0 3 1 8 3

2006 Atlanta Falcons 16 37 288 7.8 41 0 3 1 13 0

2005 Atlanta Falcons 10 17 145 8.5 29 0 3 0 12 2

2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 37 457 12.4 75T 1 7 2 14 2

2003 Atlanta Falcons 16 39 545 14.0 72 1 8 3 11 1

2002 Atlanta Falcons 14 24 288 12.0 36 0 5 0 10 0

2001 Green Bay Packers 6 11 109 9.9 55T 1 1 1 8 0

2000 Green Bay Packers 16 29 248 8.6 43 0 3 1 24 4

1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 28 250 8.9 39 0 3 0 17 3

1998 Philadelphia Eagles 15 22 187 8.5 25 0 2 0 7 3

TOTAL 156 307 3,056 10.0 75 3 41 10 132 18

"brnt247" wrote:

Rossum is average. He was also a smurf. Whenever he had to play, balls would go over his head routinely. Not to mention that when we lost him, we had nothing.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#43

Rossum was given crazy money, that's why he left. Packers didn't think a returner was worth a lot of money.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

He wasn't. Thing is, they didn't have anyone else to stick back there. The Packers struggled for years trying to find a good return man.
We have tons of depth there now. Our top two guys are injured and we still have three guys who can take it to the house.
Say what you want about TT, but we're in a good position in that regard.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#44

That is correct, shame how the facts really screw up someones attempt to slam Sherman and talk up Ted Thompson.

I just wish people would quit trying to make Ted Thompson look good comparing him to MS.

Hell that's a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened again.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:

Sherman couldn't hold TT's jock. He was too busy creating a country club for his buddies to be unjustly employed in the league and letting Favre call the shots.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#45

"nerdmann" wrote:

Sherman couldn't hold Ted Thompson's jock. He was too busy creating a country club for his buddies to be unjustly employed in the league and letting Favre call the shots.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:

Son, it's all been said before, leave it alone :icon_smile: :icon_smile: :icon_smile:

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nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#46

Jones is definitely no slouch. He beat champ baily for a TD in 07 and ever since I saw that I knew he was good. He doesn't get thrown too all that often, but when he is thrown to he makes BIG plays. IMO hes better then Jordy, but I don't think it matters. The WR position on this team is very solid, so if one goes down we have people to come and step in. Our OL is a different story though.

"El3ment12" wrote:

He had a solid rookie seasons and then last year he had a bad knee. Dude's got skills. And yeah, he's also 3rd, 4th or possibly later in the progressions if a TE is involved.

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#47

Rossum is not still playing. He was cut by San Francisco a couple of weeks ago.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#48

Rossum is not still playing. He was cut by San Francisco a couple of weeks ago.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

My bad, I just went to nfl.com to check his past numbers, they show him playing for 49r's, still 11 years in the league, the guy had to have some talent.

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zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

#49

"El3ment12" wrote:

Agreed. People here seem to forget how he did against Champ Bailey in '07. If Jones stays healthy, he's better than a lot of #2 WRs. And yes, I'll take Jones over Jordy, but that's irrelevant because I want both to succeed. If Jordy turns out better in the future, that's fine with me (as long as he's a Packer).

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nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#50

Rossum is not still playing. He was cut by San Francisco a couple of weeks ago.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:

My bad, I just went to nfl.com to check his past numbers, they show him playing for 49r's, still 11 years in the league, the guy had to have some talent.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

He's no Devin Hester.

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