From watching the game and doing the video...


We lost at the OL and DL, big time.

I think Tramon did a fairly decent job replacing Al Harris.

The Ryan Grant fumble was from a very good hit on the ball by a very good player, Derrick Brooks.

Brandon Jackson is to thank for the first INT.

Rodgers not having time to throw caused him to get happy feet and make some really poor throws.

We were in this game to the end, but a drive that I think was key. We had Flynn under center and that I think hurt us more than the 3 INT's.

Our play calling is terrible. Stretch run plays? Those won't work until you get them running up the middle first. That's like calling a play action pass when you haven't run the ball.


Ryan Grant missed SEVERAL open cutback lanes. Something he did VERY well last year. I'm starting to lose faith in this team. They are getting more and more sloppy as the season goes on.

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As a fan at the game, I saw no running game at all.
Grant ... may have just been a flash in the pan
last season.

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When will anything ever be the Golden Boy's fault. Everyone would jump all over Favre for everything and anything. But Rodgers cannot seem to do anything wrong in anyone's eyes.

Last week, it wasn't his fault they lost but he certainly was involved in not winning. He took no risks, everything was safe passes (which isn't all his fault, I'm sure Mike McCarthy has a tight leash on him). But I think at some point you have to stop managing the game and take a risk. Managing the game works if your up. This is what a lot of people seemed to prefer to Favre's gunslinging but at 2-2, is it really any better?

And today, he stunk. The BJ INT fine. But the second INT was brutal. Not to mention all the passes that were way offline. Like not even close to any player. Plus that potential 2nd INT right into the hands of Brooks on our 10 yard line. Yeah the O-line wasn't all there but every QB deals with pressure. It's life in the NFL. This is the same O-line as last year. You have to feel the pressure coming sometimes and scramble out of the pocket. He failed to do that on multiple plays. I'm not hating on Rodgers but I don't get why he is on your list but its blamed on the O-line. He made those poor decisions, not the O-line. Your not going to have the time you want every game. And its not just throwing the INT's, its about not winning the game. In the first half you take away the wide open Jennings throw, the Offense did NOTHING. Without Griese playing for the Bucs, we would have been blown out.

I swear Rodgers could take a crap on the field and it would be Taco Bell's fault. I'm just saying judge him with the same intensity everyone judged Favre. Rodgers stunk it up.

Seeing the amount I wrote, this is not an attack on you Zero2Cool, I know what you are saying but I just disagree on Rodgers. This is just a general sentiment I have, Rodgers stunk it up.

My fault list:
RB
O-Line
Run Defence.. Hell.. EVERYONE except the secondary and the FG unit. Even the Punt team, brutal.

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I'm going to take a different route and focus on Frost.

Seems as though his punts don't get the distance needed to really pin a team back deep. Sure, the defense was swiss cheese - but giving them a short field to work with doesn't help much either.

Beyond that, I don't get it. The offense's first possession was dominant - but after that, the team collapsed. Defense, offense, it was all gone.

McCarthy's play calling was uninspired and embarrassing. Coach of the year last year right? I'm a bit shocked that the play calling was that bad. What happened coach?

O-Line, you suck. Flat. Out. Suck. All starts up front boys, did we forget that?

As Lombardi said, and I'm probably messing this up, "People try to make football out to be something else, but it's only about two things - blocking and tackling."

Looks like the team that Lombardi is known for, forgot about that.

Embarrassing loss.

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Line play, line play, line play. It gets overlooked, but you can't win with poor line play. I'm disappointed in the coaching staff, too. The same penalties and mistakes each week are getting stale.

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As you said, Zero, the OL and DL were the biggies. I hate to say it, but this team is looking soft right now, and it's not just because of all the injuries (although I'm sure that is a contributing factor). They seem to be passive, with the exception of the DB's.

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I agree. I have little confidence in Ryan Grant any longer. Yes the offensive line was awful but they did open up some holes and Grant missed theme every time. I thought the commentator pointed that out nicely on a 3rd and 1. He hits that hole and he's gone for another 20 yards, but he ran right into the defender.

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He also pointed out nicely that it was a horrible play call, calling a stretch run play on a 3rd and 1, he had to actually cover 5 yards to try and get 1. Yes, he missed the cutback, but lets run down hill in that situation.

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- No run defense
- No running game
- Grant complacent with his new multi million dollar contract
- Bad coaching. You don't call a stretch play on 3rd and 1
- A shitty punter
- Same penalties over and over again

I don't disagree, but the fact is the play would have worked had Grant made the correct read.

McCarthy has always had questionable play calling in short yardage and goalline situations.

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