and what the hell is that in your picture?

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Well, Coffman was a Pro Bowl TE. Really solid TE.

You and I are probably around the same age. James Lofton at the time was my favorite player ever and he had the misfortunte of being born two decades too early. Had he been born today, his stats would be unreal. Best deep threat ever to play the game.

The sad thing is, the NFL wasn't so pass friendly like it is today. QBs took hits. WRs took hits. I remember one WR for the Patriots becoming a quadriplegic from a hit. Totally different game back then.

The Chargers opened up the air, then Dickey followed suit and got lost in the craze when Dan Marino started putting up numbers that dwarfed both Fouts and Dickey.

Now Marino numbers are routine. This year alone, Manning, Brady, Schaub, Rodgers, Brees, River, Romo, Favre, Ben R, Flacco, and Warner will all put up Marino numbers.

Remember when Dickey threw 4000 yards? I think he was like the 3rd person ever to do that. Now it's routine.

Completely different times.

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Oh, it's a warning to zombies.

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yeah, stingley. in my junior year of hs, the coach let us put custon names on our jersey for homecoming. i was a safety, and i put 'assasin' on mine, after jack tatum, the guy who hit him.

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Darryl Stingley  was the Patriots WR who got hit by Jack Tatum. His spinal cord got compressed, breaking his fourth and fifth vertebrae and making him a quadriplegic.

It's pretty sad.

You know what's impressive, if you want to look at QBs historically? Bart Starr's TD - Int ratio and his QB rating. It's better than Dan Fout's, better than Lynn Dickey, better than Johnny Unitas and better than Y. A. Tittle's.

he's one of the best of all time, but not overrated, i dont think. people know he was great.

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Starr was before my time and thus I can't really rate him.

Plus, he played in an era where the receivers got smacked around all the way down the field. So stats are going to be different.

Sometimes I envy guys like Cheesey who actually got to see him play. Had I seen him play, I may argue Bart Starr is the best QB ever. But I can't. I would not have enough evidence to support my case.

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I would swap where the Packers and Patriots are.

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ive actually got about a dozen Starr era games on video... thanks to the 2nd greatest invention in the history... ESPN Classic. (first, of course is TiVo.) and the yellow first down stripe on tv.

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Too bad you're in WI.

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