Cal2GreenBay
13 years ago
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&page=wojciechowski/110103&sportCat=nfl 

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- If there's one thing you should know about Aaron Rodgers, it is this: He plays to stick it to anybody and everybody who had the nerve to once doubt him.

You don't think he's noticed what a nightmare season it's been for a certain NFL quarterback in a certain other city? You don't think he's watched that painful, very public downfall with interest -- and maybe with a slight I-told-you smile?

Rodgers is all about getting even, proving that he was right and you were wrong. It's a useful tool in this league, and it's partly why Rodgers' Green Bay Packers are going to the playoffs while that beleaguered quarterback in that other city isn't.

But the other quarterback isn't Brett Favre. Favre is the last reason Rodgers spent the longest 4 hours, 35 minutes of his life stuck in the green room of the Jacob Javits Center in April 2005. In fact, without Favre and his annual career indecision, Rodgers' agonizing NFL draft day wait might have lasted even longer.

[+] EnlargeAaron Rodgers
Jeff Hanisch/US PresswireAaron Rodgers even led the Packers with 21 yards rushing in Sunday's win over the Bears.
No, Rodgers has a jones against his boyhood favorite San Francisco 49ers, who chose Alex Smith with the No. 1 pick that year. Smith got the huge contract, the first photo op with then-NFL commish Paul Tagliabue and a personalized jersey to hold for the cameras. Rodgers got nationally televised humiliation as he dropped from the potential first overall selection to the 24th. When it came time for him to finally pose with Tags, someone hurriedly handed him a Packers jersey -- with no name on the back.

"It was brutal watching that," said Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings, who was drafted a year later. "Obviously we see what kind of resolve he has."

Resolve is a nice way to put it. The truth is that Rodgers was insulted then and remains insulted now. He hides it well, but Sunday's wild-card game against the Philadelphia Eagles is another chance to pour a box of Morton into the Niners/Smith draft day wound.

"I did watch when Aaron didn't get drafted early," Packers running back Ryan Grant said. "I do remember Aaron sitting there. He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder. That's what you want."

The chip was on display immediately after the Packers chose him in 2005. You know what he told reporters? "I still think I'm the best quarterback in this draft," he said.

Six seasons later, he's right. He's way better than Smith, who has never reached the playoffs, never had a winning record and never kept the starting job two full seasons in a row. Smith is going on his third head coach and another offensive system.

And Rodgers was right about the 11 other quarterbacks who were taken in that draft. None of them -- not Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, Matt Cassel, Andrew Walter, Derek Anderson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, etc. -- is within a Lambeau Field of Rodgers' talent and stats.

"It just didn't make sense that a player like this would drop like this," said then-first-year Packers general manager Ted Thompson at the time.

It didn't make sense to Rodgers, either. Still doesn't. (Retrospective question: Would Thompson have taken Smith had he dropped to No. 24?)

Rodgers is driven by that draft day snub, by all snubs. He vowed he would exact some form of revenge on each of the 23 teams that passed on him. In his three seasons as a starter, Rodgers has beaten nine of the 23, including San Francisco twice.

The Niners shouldn't be offended. Rodgers has a long history of carrying grudges. He was ignored early in his career at Pleasant Valley High School in Chico, Calif. He received exactly zero Division I, II and III scholarship offers out of high school. Cal signed him out of junior college, but it was more accident than great scouting.

When he arrived at his New York hotel for the 2005 pre-draft functions, a fan asked, "Hey, Alex, will you sign this?"

Packers center Scott Wells saw that draft unfold on TV. He said he felt sorry for Rodgers, "but I was happy to get him here."

Without Rodgers, the Packers would be a subcompact car with leather seats. Without Rodgers, said Jennings, the Packers "would probably 🇧🇪 watching next week."

Instead, they'll travel to Philly to face a team they beat in Week 1 -- pre-Michael Vick As Starter. And with each playoff appearance and each win, Rodgers puts a little more distance between himself and Smith. And Favre.

Still, nothing has come easily for the Packers this season. Grant's season-ending ankle injury in September (and no real replacement) has crippled the Packers. Rodgers is the team's second-leading rusher in 2010. Against the Chicago Bears in Sunday's play-in win, he led Green Bay in rushing -- with 21 yards.

Rodgers has played hurt, and if it were up to him, he would have played woozy. He has suffered two concussions this season, the second one costing him a start at New England. The Packers lost.

He is the only indispensable Packer. He is what Favre used to be and what the 49ers hoped Smith would become.

Rodgers and the Packers have squeezed their way into the playoffs despite losing six starters to injuries from the season's beginning. Fourteen Packers are on the injured reserve. Yet they've won 10 games, including essentially elimination games against the Bears on Sunday and the New York Giants the week before that.

"I think it says a lot about the kind of men we've got from the top floor down," Rodgers said. "Guys made tough decisions, and we've stuck together, followed our coaches and believed in each other. I think it says a lot about the guys who stepped up."

This is Rodgers' team and Rodgers' town. And in many ways, 2005 turned out to be Rodgers' draft. He sat behind Favre for three seasons, but he was planning even then. Just ask Jennings.

"I remember when I got drafted here," Jennings said. "I walked into the cafeteria -- and had never met the guy a day in my life -- and the first thing he said to me was, 'It's going to be you and me sometime in the future.'

"And here we are in the future."

The future continues Sunday against the Eagles. As always, Rodgers will be there with a point to prove.

Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at gene.wojciechowski@espn.com. Hear Gene's podcasts and ESPN Radio appearances by clicking here. And don't forget to follow him on Twitter @GenoEspn.


blank
Pack93z
13 years ago
That chip should be embraced by Rodgers someday.. it has pushed him even harder to become more of a complete player.

Sometimes the best rewards in life come after you have been forced to climb a hill to get it.. not just finding it via luck.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
good stuff
UserPostedImage
Cal2GreenBay
13 years ago

That chip should be embraced by Rodgers someday.. it has pushed him even harder to become more of a complete player.

Sometimes the best rewards in life come after you have been forced to climb a hill to get it.. not just finding it via luck.

"Pack93z" wrote:



What's SO LAUGHABLE to me is that people are delusional in trying to make
Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith interchangeable. I read the comments from posters in that ESPN article...

People say that if Ted had taken Alex Smith 24th in 2005, we'd be talking about Alex. Really? Others say that it's the system, and the receivers Aaron has to work with are the real reason for his success. Some even say that Matt Flynn almost had the same success as Aaron and could do it too.

All of that is a bunch of BULL...

Alex Smith HAS weapons in San Francisco. They have a good running back, receiver, and tight end. The reason they lose is BECAUSE of Alex Smith.

The reason the packers win is BECAUSE of Aaron Rodgers.

If Alex were the packers QB..he'd be throwing over James Jone's head on crossing routes and fluttering his long ball to Greg Jennings.

Do people think Alex Smith can make that 50 yard throw that Aaron makes routinely to Greg Jennings on the go route up the sideline breaking cover 2?

I live in San Francisco and I've seen Alex throw that ball into the cornerback's hands way too many times. His arm strength is nowhere near Aaron's.

Appreciate the CAL QB that is with the pack. He's a special one.
blank
Pack93z
13 years ago
Cal.. I don't think they are interchangeable.. just that falling in the draft helped cement a fire in Aaron. Look at guys that have slid in drafts.. it pushes them.

First name that comes to mind.. Randy Moss.

I am sure it stung to sit in the Green room during the draft.. but Aaron landed in a spot that could and would allow him to blossom into a talented QB in this league.. one that has a fire still burning.

The greats in this thing we call life take the trials of their lives, harness the struggle to overcome it and allow that to mold their future for the better.. Aaron has done just that.. used it as a tool.

When you see Smith.. you don't see that fire.

That said.. Aaron has his hand in the wins of this franchise.. but he is hardly the sole reason we win.

And people wonder why I have this negative vibe towards the QB species... lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Kingkoopa
13 years ago

That chip should be embraced by Rodgers someday.. it has pushed him even harder to become more of a complete player.

Sometimes the best rewards in life come after you have been forced to climb a hill to get it.. not just finding it via luck.

"Cal2GreenBay" wrote:



What's SO LAUGHABLE to me is that people are delusional in trying to make
Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith interchangeable. I read the comments from posters in that ESPN article...

People say that if Ted had taken Alex Smith 24th in 2005, we'd be talking about Alex. Really? Others say that it's the system, and the receivers Aaron has to work with are the real reason for his success. Some even say that Matt Flynn almost had the same success as Aaron and could do it too.

All of that is a bunch of BULL...

Alex Smith HAS weapons in San Francisco. They have a good running back, receiver, and tight end. The reason they lose is BECAUSE of Alex Smith.

The reason the packers win is BECAUSE of Aaron Rodgers.

If Alex were the packers QB..he'd be throwing over James Jone's head on crossing routes and fluttering his long ball to Greg Jennings.

Do people think Alex Smith can make that 50 yard throw that Aaron makes routinely to Greg Jennings on the go route up the sideline breaking cover 2?

I live in San Francisco and I've seen Alex throw that ball into the cornerback's hands way too many times. His arm strength is nowhere near Aaron's.

Appreciate the CAL QB that is with the pack. He's a special one.

"Pack93z" wrote:



+1, I Strongly agree with this.
blank
Cal2GreenBay
13 years ago

Cal.. I don't think they are interchangeable.. just that falling in the draft helped cement a fire in Aaron. Look at guys that have slid in drafts.. it pushes them.

First name that comes to mind.. Randy Moss.

I am sure it stung to sit in the Green room during the draft.. but Aaron landed in a spot that could and would allow him to blossom into a talented QB in this league.. one that has a fire still burning.

The greats in this thing we call life take the trials of their lives, harness the struggle to overcome it and allow that to mold their future for the better.. Aaron has done just that.. used it as a tool.

When you see Smith.. you don't see that fire.

That said.. Aaron has his hand in the wins of this franchise.. but he is hardly the sole reason we win.

And people wonder why I have this negative vibe towards the QB species... lol.

"Pack93z" wrote:



Agreed. Definitely the packers win because of Aaron Rodgers AND the rest of the team. Aaron is not the sole reason for the team winning.
He is definitely a help. Alex Smith would impeded winning and not be a help.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Great article, but gah . . . why is it still impossible to write an article about Aaron Rodgers without mentioning Bre ----

Oh. I just saw the by-line. 'Nuff said.
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
13 years ago
You should have been watching football around the end of Montana.. it dwarfs the constant slobbering over Brett.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

You should have been watching football around the end of Montana.. it dwarfs the constant slobbering over Brett.

"Pack93z" wrote:



[youtube]nnvs5B_8ISo[/youtube]

UserPostedImage





Joe Cool deserved it.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (3h) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Recent Topics
7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.