RedSoxExcel
12 years ago
I have a general beef against the "drop" statistic. It's like the "error" in baseball, its subjective and depends on who's keeping score. Like that pass on 3rd down to Finley by Rodgers, may be Finley screwed up the route or may be Rodgers threw it way too hard but how can that be a drop. In the replays I saw it seems to hit his finger tips on ONE of his hands at 1000 mph. There is no one in the NFL that can catch a pass that hits your fingertips that fast on one hand - again, may be the play is all Finley's fault for the route but that's a "drop". Also that "drop" on the Ryan Grant throw. It was behind him and by the time he reached behind to get it, he got smoked before he even had a chance to secure it. How many times is that kind of pass caught? Should we also create a statistic for spectacular catches from bad throws by the QB - so a "anti-drop" statistic that would measure the value of the WR? It sounds crazy, but it seems to be just as subjective as an "error" or "drop".
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Rios39
12 years ago

I have a general beef against the "drop" statistic. It's like the "error" in baseball, its subjective and depends on who's keeping score. Like that pass on 3rd down to Finley by Rodgers, may be Finley screwed up the route or may be Rodgers threw it way too hard but how can that be a drop. In the replays I saw it seems to hit his finger tips on ONE of his hands at 1000 mph. There is no one in the NFL that can catch a pass that hits your fingertips that fast on one hand - again, may be the play is all Finley's fault for the route but that's a "drop". Also that "drop" on the Ryan Grant throw. It was behind him and by the time he reached behind to get it, he got smoked before he even had a chance to secure it. How many times is that kind of pass caught? Should we also create a statistic for spectacular catches from bad throws by the QB - so a "anti-drop" statistic that would measure the value of the WR? It sounds crazy, but it seems to be just as subjective as an "error" or "drop".

Originally Posted by: RedSoxExcel 




Finley had no shot at that ball. Even if he caught it he was laying out flat the ball would have obviously hit the ground.

Agreed on the Grant one too. No way he was going to catch that.. Finley had a lot of muffs this year but a lot of cases Aaron has been throwing him tough balls. He catches Flynn better because Flynn puts more touch on the ball. Aaron when he sees a guy open he drives the ball 100 MPH which is needed for some throws but It maybe is overdone in some cases.

The Jennings route he didn't even give Jennings a chance. Sure Jennings may have been running the wrong way but if Rodgers just lays it up there and lets him maybe run under it a bit, maybe he catches it? Rodgers throws everything flat and hard, tries to hit them right on a line which is good in certain scenarios but it's my one issue with Rodgers when he is throwing.
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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
I don't think any one of those passes was marked as a drop by the statisticians.

Personally, I define a "drop" as when the intended receiver gets both hands on the ball or the ball hits him right in the body and he fails to complete pass. I don't think every pass that gets close to the receiver should count as a drop.
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RedSoxExcel
12 years ago
I saw a montage of the "drops" on TV and they included those two in the 8 drops. I am not sure though. I would think those are in there, otherwise I don't think you get to 8.
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DanJustDan29
12 years ago
I think Finley should get a "drop" for that because he slowed down on his route. Aaron Rodgers mouthed, "Run the F'ing Route..."
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dhazer
12 years ago

I think Finley should get a "drop" for that because he slowed down on his route. Aaron Rodgers mouthed, "Run the F'ing Route..."

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Finley was wide open why try leading him when you need a first down just hit him in the numbers. Rodgers was off all day yesterday enough said about it.

As far as the drops I heard people saying Jennings dropped the one TD but cmon that would have been a very nice catch with the defender right there.

The offense dropped the ball yesterday and it cost us. I was actually ok with the defense Besides the hail mary at the half and the bad tackling on the first Hicks td they played very well yesterday.
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