Yerko
  • Yerko
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
12 years ago
Offensive line always seems to be a topic of interest during the season and even more during the off season (with some guys). One thing Packers fans know will happen is Ted Thompson WILL draft an offensive lineman(men) in the NFL draft. It is important to have all five of these positions filled with the best players possible when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers leading your offense.

With that being said, I wanted to get your thoughts on how you view the offensive line of 2012 for the Green Bay Packers?

The first two guys I want to talk about are Scott Wells and Brian Bulaga.

Scott Wells has been a staple for this offensive line and needs to be signed to a new deal. He is a must-sign for the Packers. He is not a mauler, he won't run a guy over, but he is sound with his blocking assignments and makes great decisions. He is 30 years old, but can still get the job done. Also, there is no back up at this position.

Brian Bulaga has been increasing his skills since being a Packer. Coming from a college team that produces great offensive linemen, this doesn't surprise me. I was extremely happy when the Packers drafted him (had a little Bulaga avatar till the draft) and he is going to be a great lineman for the Packers for a long time. With Clifton most likely being gone next season, now is the proper time for the move! Bulaga should be shifted to the left tackle position, giving Aaron Rodgers the best protection possible in 2012.

This leaves the right tackle position vacant. Hello, TJ Lang. Lang is another offensive lineman that has come into his own and has done well (at multiple line positions, except defensive tackle). Lang is the second best option at right tackle (behind Bulaga). He is a very exceptional lineman overall with great footwork. With the continuing trend of speed rushers of the edges, this move along with the Bulaga move seals the edges for Rodgers.

Now the left guard position is open. This leaves a competition for Newhouse and a possible rookie that Thompson may draft. Newhouse is a serviceable lineman, just not at the left tackle position protecting Rodgers blind side. I hope I never have to see Newhouse at left tackle again, unless he is leaps and bounds better (and that can happen with a full off season of practice).
Possible rookies that can come in and compete: Kevin Zeitler and Peter Konz? Knowing that the Packers main idea early in the draft will mainly be defense, I doubt those names would still be on the board. I just really like Big Ten linemen.

Sitton is obviously a non-issue and is a great lineman for the Packers for years to come.

I may be a little overboard in my thoughts but it gives something to talk about during the off season and time up till the draft. Interested to see what others think...maybe you think the line is alright the way it is? Haha.


[list][*]LT- Bulaga [*]LG- Newhouse/Rookie [*]C- Wells [*]RG- Sitton [*]RT- Lang[/list]
UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
12 years ago

Offensive line always seems to be a topic of interest during the season and even more during the off season (with some guys). One thing Packers fans know will happen is Ted Thompson WILL draft an offensive lineman(men) in the NFL draft. It is important to have all five of these positions filled with the best players possible when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers leading your offense.

With that being said, I wanted to get your thoughts on how you view the offensive line of 2012 for the Green Bay Packers?

The first two guys I want to talk about are Scott Wells and Brian Bulaga.

Scott Wells has been a staple for this offensive line and needs to be signed to a new deal. He is a must-sign for the Packers. He is not a mauler, he won't run a guy over, but he is sound with his blocking assignments and makes great decisions. He is 30 years old, but can still get the job done. Also, there is no back up at this position.

Brian Bulaga has been increasing his skills since being a Packer. Coming from a college team that produces great offensive linemen, this doesn't surprise me. I was extremely happy when the Packers drafted him (had a little Bulaga avatar till the draft) and he is going to be a great lineman for the Packers for a long time. With Clifton most likely being gone next season, now is the proper time for the move! Bulaga should be shifted to the left tackle position, giving Aaron Rodgers the best protection possible in 2012.

This leaves the right tackle position vacant. Hello, TJ Lang. Lang is another offensive lineman that has come into his own and has done well (at multiple line positions, except defensive tackle). Lang is the second best option at right tackle (behind Bulaga). He is a very exceptional lineman overall with great footwork. With the continuing trend of speed rushers of the edges, this move along with the Bulaga move seals the edges for Rodgers.

Now the left guard position is open. This leaves a competition for Newhouse and a possible rookie that Thompson may draft. Newhouse is a serviceable lineman, just not at the left tackle position protecting Rodgers blind side. I hope I never have to see Newhouse at left tackle again, unless he is leaps and bounds better (and that can happen with a full off season of practice).
Possible rookies that can come in and compete: Kevin Zeitler and Peter Konz? Knowing that the Packers main idea early in the draft will mainly be defense, I doubt those names would still be on the board. I just really like Big Ten linemen.

Sitton is obviously a non-issue and is a great lineman for the Packers for years to come.

I may be a little overboard in my thoughts but it gives something to talk about during the off season and time up till the draft. Interested to see what others think...maybe you think the line is alright the way it is? Haha.


[list]

  • LT- Bulaga
  • LG- Newhouse/Rookie
  • C- Wells
  • RG- Sitton
  • RT- Lang[/list]

    Originally Posted by: G-Force 

  • Agree on Wells 100%. If he isn't re-signed, you'll see me screaming here.As for Bulaga, I'm in the minority. He played better than Newhouse did, but I"m not convinced he played as well as everyone thinks. I think he should stay at RT.
    Sitton -- well, no one ones to change that position. Certainly I don't.

    Lang? I'm not sure what to think. I like Lang better than his predecessor, but the fact of the matter is that the Packers had trouble running to the left side all year. And you can't blame all that on Newhouse.

    I'm sort of assuming Clifton will be gone, but he's been proving me wrong for years.

    Newhouse? I've been a Newhouse backer. But I don't think he made as much progress as he should have this year; certainly not as much as I expected. Part of that is the lack of a decent offseason, but how much? I'd be inclined to have him penciled in as the starter at the beginning of training camp, and I'd love to be able to say "I told you Newhouse would work" come October and November; but I also want serious competition for his spot and all of the backup positions, and maybe for Lang's, too.

    So, to summarize, I think Wells and Sitton should be locked in. Bulaga probably, too, but at his current position. LG should have more competition. And LT should have serious attention.

    As always, I want three OL (one high) in the draft and two (one first- or second-tier in FA. And as always, I believe there's no chance in hell either will happen. In fact, given all the issues on the defensive side, my guess is there's even less chance this year.

    My guess is Ted'll get two mid- to late-round OL picks in the draft, or one mid-round pick in the draft and one third-tier backup type in FA.

    And maybe I'll be able to convince Foster to return to helping me kick the dead horse of ...

    OL OL OL!

    šŸ“

    And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
    Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
    earthquake
    12 years ago
    No thoughts on Sherrod? Is his injury that serious?
    blank
    Wade
    • Wade
    • Veteran Member
    12 years ago
    I think Sherrod should be in the competitive mix for the starting LT (though I think Newhouse would beat him out regardless of the injury question).

    They screwed him up working him out at guard this year, so who knows where he's at.

    And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
    Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
    Yerko
    • Yerko
    • Senior Member Topic Starter
    12 years ago

    No thoughts on Sherrod? Is his injury that serious?

    Originally Posted by: earthquake 



    I wanted to get into Sherrod's case but felt my post was already long enough and didn't want to scare people away, haha.

    Sherrod can be a decent player. I agree with Wade in that his development was completely screwed up with all the shifting they did with him in the short off season. So he had two things back up his development. He is a strong player, but with the lack of development this past off season and now his broken leg (haven't heard much about it) maybe backing up his development even more I didn't really want to throw him in the mix at his original position.

    Wade- I appreciate the input. I know you are one of the o-line hounds (that's a compliment) in this forum and figured you'd take to a convo about the offensive line. Can I ask you what it is about Bulaga that you don't like at LT?

    One thing that would shy me away from putting Bulaga to the left would be the chemistry that he and Sitton have and the dominance the right side of the line produces in the run game.

    UserPostedImage
    porky88
    12 years ago
    I don't see it in Newhouse. He regressed as the year went on. I recall the San Diego game being very difficult for him. From that point on, he seem to really struggle to hold his own in pass protection and the running game as a whole struggled.

    Sherrod was starting to take snaps away from him. In fact, against Oakland, they rotated Sherrod in because he was developing. That's why I think the team took his injury hard. I think most felt he was going to be the OLT in the playoffs ahead of both Clifton and Newhouse.

    I do like Bulaga, but his physical limitations may limit him to ORT, so Iā€™m not sure Iā€™d move him.

    T.J. Lang is a thumper in the middle. He just kind of throws himself into the mess and itā€™s hit or miss. Iā€™m not sure he has the power to hold his own, though I once thought the same about Scott Wells. I donā€™t expect any outside competition, but I could see the Packers taking a guard early in the draft to create competition with Lang.
    nerdmann
    12 years ago
    Sherrod needs an offseason to bulk up. His broken leg won't be as serious as a knee injury. I think he'll be fine, but he might not be ready for training camp.
    ā€œWinning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a whileā€¦you do them right all the time.ā€
    wpr
    • wpr
    • Preferred Member
    12 years ago
    I don't like shuffling the line like it is a deck of cards. Put a guy in and leave him there.

    RT Bulaga- Like porky said his physical make up has him better suited to the right side than the left. I read somewhere last spring or summer that because of this he is a better run blocker than Sherrod will be and thus belongs at RT.
    RG Sitton- nuf said.
    C Wells- they need to bring him back and they will.
    LG Lang- Did an adequate job. Will get better this year with a full camp and the full year's worth of experience under his belt.
    LT Sherrod- no camp and jerking him around from position to position delayed him. He will be a stand out in a couple of years.
    UserPostedImage
    12 years ago

    I don't like shuffling the line like it is a deck of cards. Put a guy in and leave him there.

    RT Bulaga- Like porky said his physical make up has him better suited to the right side than the left. I read somewhere last spring or summer that because of this he is a better run blocker than Sherrod will be and thus belongs at RT.
    RG Sitton- nuf said.
    C Wells- they need to bring him back and they will.
    LG Lang- Did an adequate job. Will get better this year with a full camp and the full year's worth of experience under his belt.
    LT Sherrod- no camp and jerking him around from position to position delayed him. He will be a stand out in a couple of years.

    Originally Posted by: wpr 



    I agree, but I'd put Newhouse in as the incumbent at LT, and make Sherrod compete for the job when his leg is ready to go. Make him beat out the incumbent so he doesn't just have the job handed to him and learns to work his ass off. If he never beats out Newhouse, then good for Newhouse.

    Bulaga should be better as a RT both because of his body type and his experience. Let him continue to develop there, and he could be one of the best RTs out there.
    Zero2Cool
    12 years ago
    The G position wouldn't need any mentioning if the Packers would not have mistakenly let Daryn Colledge go to the Cardinals.
    UserPostedImage
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (15h) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
    Zero2Cool (15h) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
    Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
    beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
    Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
    Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
    Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
    beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
    beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
    beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
    beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
    Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
    buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
    Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
    Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: ā€œGot in a fight with the bench press. I lost.ā€
    Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
    TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
    Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
    dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
    dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
    Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
    Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
    earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
    beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
    dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
    dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
    Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
    Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
    dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Recent Topics
    2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

    7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

    5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

    5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright Ā© 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.comā„¢. All Rights Reserved.