Zero2Cool
11 years ago
What do you folks think about this?

DETROIT (97.1 The Ticket) On the long flight back for the Green Bay Packers following the team’s 14-12 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, players debated going on strike or taking a knee on every play in upcoming games if the replacement referee issue isn’t solved.

That’s according to Packers guard TJ Lang, a Royal Oak native who issued an infamous anti-NFL Tweet after the game that said “Fuck It NFL. Fine me and use the money to pay the regular refs.”

Many believe the Packers loss was caused by the worst referee decision in NFL history, and players got down to the nuts and bolts of what to do next on the plane, Lang said.

Lang said incensed players decided they’re willing to go to great lengths to show their displeasure about the replacement ref situation.

“Whatever it takes, it’s just a total embarrassment to everybody watching the game, the players in the game, it’s not fun to be part of something like that … If it keeps going on, it’s going to get ugly,” Lang said during a Tuesday afternoon interview on the Valenti & Foster show on 97.1 The Ticket.

He added: “Going into a game worrying about the refs more than the other team, it’s a problem. The NFL, the commissioners, if they don’t take action after last night … That should be the last straw.”

He added he didn’t regret his angry Tweets — which some are calling the most re-Tweeted lines in sports history — though he does regret using the “F-bomb.”

“Personally, I think more people need to speak up,” Lang said, adding players are too afraid of fines to say what they really believe.

He added it’s hypocritical for the NFL to “preach integrity, character, player safety,” and allow unqualified referees on the field whose calls could actually injure players.

“We were furious, man, as soon as we got into the locker room we turned the TVs on, it was just heartbreaking to have the game taken from us like that,” he said. “We put too much effort, blood, sweat and tears into this game to have it taken from us.”

So were the descriptions of 20 angry players throwing things at the TV after the game accurate? “It is accurate,” Lang said, adding, “I’ve never been part of anything like that, it’s hard to blame officials for that loss, you never want to use that excuse … but after we saw the replay and all the reaction from the newscasters on ESPN … We got robbed.

“It was kind of embarrassing to be part of it, everybody was furious, a lot of guys are trying to take the high road, but it’s hard to do when there’s that much emotion into one game. To have the win actually stolen from you? It’s frustrating.”

Foster said fans, even those in Detroit where Green Bay isn’t exactly a favored topic, felt the team’s pain.

“I don’t think it matters if you’re a fan of the Packers or not, everybody clearly saw that last play was an absolutely blown call,” Lang said. “It’s just emotionally straining. I woke up today kind of feeling the same way I did last night, just kind of dumbfounded that outcome played out the way it did.”

Today is a day off for the Packers, but many are wondering how they’ll come back from such a devastating loss. Lang said it is possible.

“Emotionally it’s just heartbreaking to have a game come down to that … it’s tough to get over, but as professionals you’ve got to find a way to move on,” he said.

But he’s not exactly over it, going on to say he doesn’t understand why refs didn’t take more time during the game to review the controversial play. The call was reaffirmed by the NFL Tuesday.

“Did they really look at it? What’s going on?” he recalled thinking after the call.

Lang added a number of bad calls have been piling up since the season began, adding, “If the NFL doesn’t step up and do something about it now, it’s just going to get worse.”

So, who does he blame? “It all starts with the owners, commissioners,” Lang said, adding, “The refs that we have right now, they don’t have the experience to make the proper calls, you can tell by watching every single game they’re having a hard time … They just asked a bunch of random guys to go out there.

“It’s clear that everybody, fans, players, hopefully the owners, realize it’s a problem, we can’t keep going on this way. It’s frustrating to have to go out there are worry about the refs … We see how important it is now.”

He said the controversy is “turning the league into a joke.”

“It’s frustrating to see the owners, the commissioners, aren’t taking any action toward it … The NFL needs to take action, it’s hard to blame these guys, it’s total confusion out there at some points for these guys. You just asked a couple of guys who have never reffed an NFL game to go out there and be perfect.”

this is the source  wrote:


UserPostedImage
porky88
11 years ago
This might be a cliché, but given the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

This might be a cliché, but give the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I have a feeling the Saints aren't happy with the replacement refs, nor the NFL. Probably thinking, great, take our coaches and now you piss off the Packers when we gotta face'em?? Seriously?
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
I agree with most of that.

But the blaming the Commish for everything gets old. He did not decide to lock out the Refs, or Players last year, that was the owners. He doesn't make the rules, that comes from the competition committee. And right now, he cannot make either the Owners and the Refs agree to terms or sign a deal.

Also the talk about the replacements increasing the risk of injury is BS. If there is an increased risk of injury, it is 100% because of the players actions. It seems like they players and analysts seem to be using the replacements as ammo in the lawsuits against the league.

It would be nice of teams could agree, and trade 3 and outs for an entire game. they can't strike, but nothing prevents them from not really playing. Match that up, the fans at the games continuing to tailgate and not entering the stadium until after the 1st qtr. Nothing pisses off sponsors and advertisers than empty seats.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
11 years ago

This might be a cliché, but give the circumstances -- this is an opportunity for Green Bay to come together. They took plays off last year, especially the defense, which I thought was lazy at times. That's obviously not the case this year, but the play calling has been complacent. I think the replacement refs woke up a sleeping giant.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



from your fingers to the team's ears.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
11 years ago

I agree with most of that.

But the blaming the Commish for everything gets old. He did not decide to lock out the Refs, or Players last year, that was the owners. He doesn't make the rules, that comes from the competition committee. And right now, he cannot make either the Owners and the Refs agree to terms or sign a deal.

Also the talk about the replacements increasing the risk of injury is BS. If there is an increased risk of injury, it is 100% because of the players actions. It seems like they players and analysts seem to be using the replacements as ammo in the lawsuits against the league.

It would be nice of teams could agree, and trade 3 and outs for an entire game. they can't strike, but nothing prevents them from not really playing. Match that up, the fans at the games continuing to tailgate and not entering the stadium until after the 1st qtr. Nothing pisses off sponsors and advertisers than empty seats.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



if Roger would have vacated the Seahawk win he could have asserted his authority over the owners.
UserPostedImage
RaiderPride
11 years ago

if Roger would have vacated the Seahawk win he could have asserted his authority over the owners.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



No disrespect at all my friend, but I do not understand this logic at all. I am confused. I may be wrong, and am many, many times, however I always presumed Rodger Goodell was hired by the owners, represents the owners, and has to answer to the owners in all aspects as commissioner of the N.F.L.

How can an employee of the owners (Roger Goodell)assert his authority over his administrators?

WPR... Do I not understand the scope of the power Roger Goodell has with his position as commissioner of the NFL?







""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Zero2Cool
11 years ago

No disrespect at all my friend, but I do not understand this logic at all. I am confused. I may be wrong, and am many, many times, however I always presumed Rodger Goodell was hired by the owners, represents the owners, and has to answer to the owners in all aspects as commissioner of the N.F.L.

How can an employee of the owners (Roger Goodell)assert his authority over his administrators?

WPR... Do I not understand the scope of the power Roger Goodell has with his position as commissioner of the NFL?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I believe it's similar to how the citizens vote for the President, but the President holds the power to be impartial for the citizens, so to speak.

The owners collectively elect a commissioner who will best serve the NFL as an impartial authority who will do what's right.


Roger Goodell locked out the referee's, probably on the urge of the owners to save them money.


The commissioner has the authority to correct mistakes. He chose not to and I believe part of his reasoning for not changing the results (aside from a poor precedent) was because it would shine an even more negative light on the replacement refs.
UserPostedImage
Since69
11 years ago
Lang's remarks are just hot-headed chatter. No team is going to intentionally tank a game. Not for any reason.

And I'm not on the Goodell bashwagon, either. The refs make damn good money already, and they got a 2.5% raise this year (the same that I got, BTW). They decided they wanted 8%. And a pension. Eventually a compromise will be reached, but for Goodell and the owners to just give in every time the NFLRA holds their breath isn't good for the game, either.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I wish I got over $5,000 a week while only working 4-5 months a year.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.
CanPackFan (5h) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.
Zero2Cool (22h) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol
Zero2Cool (22h) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.
buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4
Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.