PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Remember all the talk about how he "wouldn't play rookies" and all that? I just think Dom likes to do with his own guys. Look at is track record. First couple years, he always does great. Then once he gets set on some guys he likes, his teams tend to descend.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What rookies should have been played that were not since he has been in GB? His history here shows that he will play guys when they earn playing time. I can't think of a case where a rookie was clearly better than a veteran and was not playing.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
9 years ago

What rookies should have been played that were not since he has been in GB? His history here shows that he will play guys when they earn playing time. I can't think of a case where a rookie was clearly better than a veteran and was not playing.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



That was the big story last year and/or the year before. "The scheme is to complex, the scheme is too specialized." Couldn't play the rooks. Wouldn't play Richardson or that other guy at S last year either. Wouldn't put Datone on the field.

And AJ should have been replaced long ago.

The history shows that as soon as Mike started getting involved with the D, guys started getting ont he field and making plays.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
9 years ago
I support Dom Capers. He gambles; sometimes winning on a play and sometimes losing.
He experiments and develops players. The defense always seems to improve over the course of the season.

What he really needs are a couple of good D linemen, and 2 great linebacking prospects.

Ted may just be desperate enough to make a splash or 2 in free agency.

The Packers have not replaced their Super Bowl defensive line of Jenkins, Pickett, and Raji. Do that and the defense will be much better.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Dom doesn't make players miss tackles, and blow assignments, and fail to get pressure on opposing team QBs.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Do you really think a defensive coordinator has nothing to do with how his players tackle, communicate, or execute the defense? Of course the blame doesn't exclusively fall on a coach, just like it doesn't the players. But a coach absolutely gets some of the blame for poor tackling, technique, years of massive communication breakdowns, historical defensive failures in the playoffs, etc.
DakotaT
9 years ago
This defensive failures is a combination of a few things. First, you don't switch to a 3-4 without having the linebackers to play the defense. You have to, and I reiterate have to, have the bookend OLB which we still don't really have - and this lies in the lab of Uncle Ted. Kudos to what Peppers has done this year - wish we had him 5 years ago. The second thing is the career ending injury to Nick Collins. That was a blow you don't expect or really recover from. Nick was a once in a generation safety with 4.3 speed, covering ability, tackling, and could knock the snot out of a guy. He was Aaron Rodgers on defense, masking our deficiencies.

Throw in all the other injuries to other players, and yes, pretty easy to make Dom a whipping boy. We've finally recovered from bad luck with injuries so let it ride with Dom. We just might have a very good New Year.
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yooperfan
9 years ago

This defensive failures is a combination of a few things. First, you don't switch to a 3-4 without having the linebackers to play the defense. You have to, and I reiterate have to, have the bookend OLB which we still don't really have - and this lies in the lab of Uncle Ted. Kudos to what Peppers has done this year - wish we had him 5 years ago. The second thing is the career ending injury to Nick Collins. That was a blow you don't expect or really recover from. Nick was a once in a generation safety with 4.3 speed, covering ability, tackling, and could knock the snot out of a guy. He was Aaron Rodgers on defense, masking our deficiencies.

Throw in all the other injuries to other players, and yes, pretty easy to make Dom a whipping boy. We've finally recovered from bad luck with injuries so let it ride with Dom. We just might have a very good New Year.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Those issues need to be laid at the feet of the head coach as well.

PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

That was the big story last year and/or the year before. "The scheme is to complex, the scheme is too specialized." Couldn't play the rooks. Wouldn't play Richardson or that other guy at S last year either. Wouldn't put Datone on the field.

And AJ should have been replaced long ago.

The history shows that as soon as Mike started getting involved with the D, guys started getting ont he field and making plays.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Sorry but that is crap. Sure the scheme is complex, so it takes rookies time to learn it to become ready to play, but rookies and young players have consistently earned more playing time as the season goes on. Richardson, Datone, Daniels, Boyd, Hayward, Hyde, Ha-Ha. Its not difference with the offense, players earn field time by their performance in practice, and when they prove on the field, they earn more play time.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Do you really think a defensive coordinator has nothing to do with how his players tackle, communicate, or execute the defense? Of course the blame doesn't exclusively fall on a coach, just like it doesn't the players. But a coach absolutely gets some of the blame for poor tackling, technique, years of massive communication breakdowns, historical defensive failures in the playoffs, etc.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



And do you honestly think the are not coaching how to properly tackle or communicate? You think McCarthy doesn't teach proper pad level? Even though there are constant pad level issues through every season.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
9 years ago

Sorry but that is crap. Sure the scheme is complex, so it takes rookies time to learn it to become ready to play, but rookies and young players have consistently earned more playing time as the season goes on. Richardson, Datone, Daniels, Boyd, Hayward, Hyde, Ha-Ha. Its not difference with the offense, players earn field time by their performance in practice, and when they prove on the field, they earn more play time.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Soon as Mike gets involved with that side of the ball, suddenly younger guys are playing. And playing well.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Soon as Mike gets involved with that side of the ball, suddenly younger guys are playing. And playing well.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What is being seen has happened most every year since Dom has been here. And is the same thing that happens on offense also. On neither side do they simply play rookies to play them. The players on both sides need to earn their time on the field. We are seeing that with Adams and Rodgers as well.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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