nerdmann
8 years ago

In the base our DL will dominate the LOS and Charles will get squat. The problem w/ Lynch is it’s harder to maintain assignment discipline because you know ya need 34 guys to get him down, so guys are chomping at the bit to abandon their assignment. Charles is a really good back; but if everyone plays w/ discipline they’ll be no holes. He might pop a couple of long runs 20-30 yards maybe even a TD, but he’ll be averaging under 3 for the rest of his carries. Hayward and Shields can man the KC WRs and I expect only 1 safety deep most of game, w/ the other up on LOS. Hyde/Burnett/Dix/Richardson/Palmer/CM3 will take care of Kelce [Their #2 threat].

The only way to run on Pack is to play 3WR and KC dont do this much [about 20x per game]. They play a lot of 12, 21 and some 22 personnel. They play a FB about 15 snaps per game; and a second TE about 30 snaps per game. Their refusal to spread the field will destroy their run game. If Reid recognizes this, he'll play alot more than 20 snaps w/ 3 WRs.

I have 1 and only 1 fear-Charles catching balls out of backfield, somebody fast enough better be on this guys a$$, no matter what is happening. This guy will kill ya if you try to play zone and they do little swing passes and he’s allowed to work in space.

On O: we will not be able to run on their base D. So dammit let’s not even try; and I don’t care what the eff Lombardi did or how important balance is, designing yourself to be 2nd and 12 is just stupid. KC has the best 1-2 NT group in the NFL [Howard-Poe] and Bailey and Devito are really good 3-4DEs. And a real good thumper [Johnson] behind them.

They got 1 good CB [Gaines] and another that’s been playing Damarious-Randell-well [rookie Peters]. Capers and Whitt have had 2 weeks of tape on Peters and if there is a chink, they’ll find and exploit it. When teams go 3 wide, Gaines moves inside and the mediocre Fleming mans the right and Peters the left [KC don’t move their CBs]. In the dime they bring in a safety Abdullah. Mismatch = Cobb outside on Fleming. Mismatch = Rodgers on Gains or any safety. Mismatch= [Rodgers lining up outside occupying CB-Peters] a relatively healthy Adams on the dime cover safety. And if they get Monty up to speed in 2nd slot on 4 wide look, him on the dime cover safety is a scary [for KC] mismatch.

With Adams probably missing practice reps: the extra reps w/ the 1s will help Monty immensely. I’m hopin’ GB should be able to design some plays for Janis against Fleming or Peters. A successful play or 2 to Janis on film will also occupy some precious practice time of our upcoming opponents. Even a long incompletion w/ Janis open will do this.

The 3rd read in a pattern must delay their move to get open anyways. If we put Q or Rodgers to not just chip Houston, but to really get in and block. Then once Houston’s momentum is stopped, then the TE who will probably be uncovered by this time can slip off into his route. If GB does not do this, then it will be by design!!!! Aaron Rodgers sits in pocket drawing Houston into it like drawing a bug to a bug zapper...LOL..Then Zap, Wapp, Barclay smacks him further inside and Aaron Rodgers strolls right with hours to throw or run. A few screens; 745 hard counts; and improvement by Barclay and Bak will keep the rush and the victory well controlled.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



I'd say wear those tough NTs down pursuing sideline to sideline, lots of traps and screens. But we all know that ain't happening.

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Yerko
8 years ago
Packers come out on top here if and only if the defense that played Seattle shows up on Monday night. Guys were flying around the field, making plays in the backfield. Jamaal Charles is going to come into this game fired up like no other player on that offense. He lost his team the game against a division rival. He's mad. It will be a matter of containing him, rather than completely stopping him. The other thing that scares me about Charles is being a shifty speed back. I do not think this goes well with the Packers soft tackling (at times).
Charles will have two of the Chiefs touchdowns.

Packers defense also gives up the first Chiefs WR touchdown since (I can't remember how long but want to say December 2013?). I have no reservation about Kelce as Hyde and Randall did a tremendous job in coverage against Graham.

Chiefs have a stout front 7 so I think the run game is going to be difficult without Lacy, assuming he is out. Packers will have to grind this out and hope Starks finds that cutback lane as he usually does at least once or twice for some big yardage to allow Rodgers to play around with the passing game.

I think we are going to see a lot of Ty Montgomery lining up in the backfield this game for short dump passes.

Rodgers has all three touchdowns: R. Rodgers-Cobb-Montgomery

Packers- 27
Chiefs-24
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8 years ago
Since my predictions so far have been perfectly negatively correlated with Packer performance so far (I predict loss, they win), I am going for 3 for 3.

Plus I think this is a loss. I think this is the game that both LT and run defense are shown to be paper tigers. So despite Rodgers having a 120+ passer rating, 2 TDs, and no INTS:

KC 31
GB 17
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Cheesey
8 years ago
EVERY game is a "trap" game if you don't prepare yourself 100% for your opponent.
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PackerTraxx
8 years ago
I think the Packers should win but I really respect the KC defense. Their O is not great but is more than adequate with that D. I think the game being in GB will be the difference. Hard fought 27-17 win.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
If any game the first quarter of the season was a trap game, it would have been the Chicago Bears with the team looking towards it's week 2 opponent. This is not a trap game. If anything, the Packers could have a let down from the emotions of the Seahawks game.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Packers come out on top here if and only if the defense that played Seattle shows up on Monday night. Guys were flying around the field, making plays in the backfield. Jamaal Charles is going to come into this game fired up like no other player on that offense. He lost his team the game against a division rival. He's mad. It will be a matter of containing him, rather than completely stopping him. The other thing that scares me about Charles is being a shifty speed back. I do not think this goes well with the Packers soft tackling (at times).
Charles will have two of the Chiefs touchdowns.

Packers defense also gives up the first Chiefs WR touchdown since (I can't remember how long but want to say December 2013?). I have no reservation about Kelce as Hyde and Randall did a tremendous job in coverage against Graham.

Chiefs have a stout front 7 so I think the run game is going to be difficult without Lacy, assuming he is out. Packers will have to grind this out and hope Starks finds that cutback lane as he usually does at least once or twice for some big yardage to allow Rodgers to play around with the passing game.

I think we are going to see a lot of Ty Montgomery lining up in the backfield this game for short dump passes.

Rodgers has all three touchdowns: R. Rodgers-Cobb-Montgomery

Packers- 27
Chiefs-24

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



Packers OL interior is pretty stout too.

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nyrpack
8 years ago
fairly low scoring i like the pack


pack 27
kc 14
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Dulak
8 years ago

I think the Packers should win but I really respect the KC defense. Their O is not great but is more than adequate with that D. I think the game being in GB will be the difference. Hard fought 27-17 win.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



ahh I didnt realize the game is in GB - ahh feel much better about it now. We def win.
Rockmolder
8 years ago
If we can start fast, I think we have this one in the bag.

Alex Smith is a pure game manager, there's no doubt about that. His avg is about 1.5 yards lower than Rodgers', Maclin has averaged 2 yards per catch less than his career average since joining the Chiefs (only two games, but still), the chart that was posted earlier shows that Smith rather goes for the safety of a checkdown than throwing it past the line on third down and going by this chart , 70% of his total yardage comes from YAC.

When you manage to put a couple of points up on that Chiefs team, they can't hide behind their running game, screen game and quick passes anymore. Alex has to carry the load, throw it around, and that's when he usually starts making some bad decisions.

That said, like most people pointed out, scoring on this defense is no easy task. I worry a bit about the match-ups on the outside. Hali and Houston are a great tandem of pass rushers, Poe is a beast of a man and they have Zombo  on their roster.

If we get a lead on them early, I'm saying 14 - 37.

If their defense holds to start of the game, we have to keep stopping Charles, Kelce and a whole lot of screens, I'm thinking more along the lines of 20 - 24.
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