nerdmann
8 years ago

Very few are arguing that Trevathan would have been a bad signing for the Packers, although I do think he is vastly overrated. Although the Bears signed two decent free agent line backers, so I imagine they will make each other better. The point is that signing Perry has no bearing on Trevathan. If the Packers wanted Trevathan, they could have easily made it happen while signing Perry, while making a few other moves. The reality is that they must not have wanted Trevathan, for whatever reason, at least not at his market value even if that is perceived to be affordable.

Do you know for a fact that Perry wasn't offered any longer contracts? Perhaps he decided to bet on himself to have a better year and cash in with much bigger money next offseason? That certainly happens.

We will simply have to disagree that Perry isn't worth the few million dollars that he will likely get paid. It's basically no risk. If he doesn't work out or goes on IR, he will probably only be paid a few million. That's hardly a big risk on a team that needs more linebacker talent. If he provides some pass rush and run defense throughout the season, and most importantly, delivers decent pass rush in the playoffs, he will easily be worth the $3.5-5 million he will be paid. That's the the market for young pass rushers that are potentially on the rise. If Perry can stay slightly more healthy this season than last, he will probably earn more than $5 million per year in 2017. The bottom line is that if signing Perry is a "risk," it is a very minor risk in the big scheme of things. I think keeping Julius Peppers around at his salary is a much bigger risk, and even that isn't a huge risk beyond this season.

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I'd take Dansby over Trevathian. But we only have so much cap space. Dansby would have to be willing to sign for whatever amount we have available.

I'm not one to panic.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

I'd take Dansby over Trevathian. But we only have so much cap space. Dansby would have to be willing to sign for whatever amount we have available.

I'm not one to panic.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah. I frankly have very little faith in any ILB on the Packers roster, at least in pass coverage. The Packers have to do better, undoubtedly. Barrington certainly isn't the answer. Ryan may be an average answer, but average isn't good enough. I'm kinda hoping Lee fails to the Packers in the first round, but I doubt it.
yooperfan
8 years ago
I think the Packers may be able to improve from within to possibly win the division.
That will most likely depend on the play of Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson.
sschind
8 years ago

I'd take Dansby over Trevathian. But we only have so much cap space. Dansby would have to be willing to sign for whatever amount we have available.

I'm not one to panic.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I think it was Confucius who said "if you ain't panicking you're settling"
PackerTraxx
8 years ago
Back in the Packer's Glory Years if you had 15 point lead in the 4th quarter you were pretty safe. The game was much different. The offense has been given huge advantages over the years. There is no more bump and run, the receiver could be knocked down anytime before the QB released a pass, no 5 yard rule. They weren't protected as an unprotected receiver, so if the pass was way over his head he was "fair game" to get creamed, no head to head or leading with the helmet rule. There was no face guarding rule. The Olinemen could not use their hands at all for blocking. The Dlinemen could use a head slap. QBs had to call their own plays, no helmet mic's or hand signals. Thirty yard and plus field goals were questionable with straight on FG kickers. These are just the changes I can think of off the top of my head. So today a 15 point lead is nothing, just 2 scores not 3 with all these changes added. With all the changes, and the 2 point conversion, it might be similar to a 24 point lead with 3 to 6 minutes remaining.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Of course Danny Trevathan is better than Perry at this point. That is why he received a four year $24.5 million dollar contract with a $5 million dollar signing bonus and $12 million guaranteed  and Perry received a one year $5 million dollar contract with a $1.5 million dollar signing bonus and $1.5 million guaranteed  and probably won't even earn all of the $5 million dollars. If he earns it, he will likely be worth it since he plays a position that is in higher demand than an inside linebacker. These contracts clearly illustrate who is perceived to be the "better player." I don't understand why so many folks compare the two.

That's not to say Trevathan wouldn't have been a good signing by the Packers, it's just to say that Perry's contract is largely irrelevant in the matter.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 


Who is our new tight end catching a pass over?
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8 years ago

Who is our new tight end catching a pass over?
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I get what you are saying and it's pretty funny.
However can you say for certain that Trevathan was supposed to be the one covering Cook and not 45 ? (I think that's Rogers Cromartie. ) Looking at the empty seats and all the short sleeves this was probably the preseason game played in Aug 2013.
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8 years ago

I get what you are saying and it's pretty funny.
However can you say for certain that Trevathan was supposed to be the one covering Cook and not 45 ? (I think that's Rogers Cromartie. ) Looking at the empty seats and all the short sleeves this was probably the preseason game played in Aug 2013.

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It was the 3rd exhibition game, which as you're aware most teams tend to play starters into the 2nd half of that game. Before you try and saturate the awesomeness of our new tight end scoring on the Bears new linebacker by saying the starters were resting, well, this was this was the 1st drive of the game.

Therefore, we see the tight end putting forth better effort than the linebacker during a meaningless game . Bonus!!! Wait says you! What if the cornerback was assigned to cover the tight end?? To that I say, check out the separation the tight end was able to get on a faster cornerback!!! (#45 is 6'2" and has a 40 yard dash time of 4.29 seconds)

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While I think it would be more impressive for a tight end to to blow by a cornerback, the linebacker was the one assigned to cover him. Maybe the linebacker was was supposed to take the wide receiver on the pick and hand off the tight end to the cornerback? So we're then at the point where the tight end still catches a pass and the linebacker screwed up? Either way you shake it, the tight end comes out better than the linebacker here lol


Aside from my over-analysis of a play during a meaningless game, the fact that it was posted by the Packers on Packers.com is what I find most freaking awesome!
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It was a nice play by Cook.
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Yeah. I frankly have very little faith in any ILB on the Packers roster, at least in pass coverage. The Packers have to do better, undoubtedly. Barrington certainly isn't the answer. Ryan may be an average answer, but average isn't good enough. I'm kinda hoping Lee fails to the Packers in the first round, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Lee at #27 would be major value. Like you, though, I think it very unlikely. We have a better chance at landing my man Billings (DT) than Lee, and that chance is pretty slim.

Ragland might be there, but I think he's 2nd round quality.


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