Statement from the Green Bay Packers players· Page 2

isocleas2
Member

6 years ago

Thank your son for his fine service and sacrifice.

And I wholeheartedly agree that I don't begrudge Bennett or anyone else who does not care to stand during the anthem. This is after all a free country and I certainly have not posted anything about the protests.

However, I am disappointed that the Packers have now taken upon themselves to decide how fans should conduct themselves during the playing of the anthem tomorrow. If the team wants to link arms that is their prerogative. Telling fans how the should react is entirely inappropriate in my view.

Should the Packers continue to take the if your for "unity" should lock arms during the anthem approach, I will be begrudging the Packers.

Originally Posted by: RichMcGeorge

Trump opened this door open when he told the Owners they should FIRE THEM when they protest, and that fans should boycott games.

When the president steps into your business this is what happens, people respond.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

The president said, "wouldn't it be nice."

So if this is the reason they are not about unity, they are about politics.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#13

Time for a comment from my son.
For those who don't know or may have forgotten, Dave served in Afghanistan. He joined after 9-11. He was out in the field not sitting on base. During his tour he earned several citations and a Purple Heart when a suicide driver decided to hit his Humvee. Because he feels most people in the VA don't know how to properly deal with PTSD he changed his major and became a Social Worker dealing with other Vets.

Not too many people get a call at 3:17 in the morning. When you hear the words, "Um, Dad? First of all, I'm ok." It's an experience I will never forget.
Compared to this or parents watching their 2 yo slowly die from cancer or a hundred billion other things, I don't really care if some 25 yo stands, sits or takes a knee.
My son and more than a million other men and women SPILLED THEIR BLOOD TO GIVE THEM THAT RIGHT. You don't have to like it. I don't.

My wife sobs every time the jets fly overhead. I hate the fireworks that explode during the song. It's like a knife in my heart every single time. All I can think of is, "Thank you Lord we are blessed not to be Gold Star parents." Not once do I begrudge Bennett for sitting down.

Originally Posted by: wpr

This is what is great about the country. People can have differences in opinion. There are many people that see not standing during the anthem as disrespectful. I happen to be one of them. I use to yell at other solders that I saw running to get indoors before the flag was raised or lowered because I saw that as disrespectful.

My question to the packers is why isn't the normal routine for the anthem not Unity enough for them. Why isn't everybody joining together for the anthem as we have always done not enough unity for them.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

RichMcGeorge
Rookie

6 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

Trump opened the door to what?

Martellus Bennet (who is getting credited as being the author of the "statement") dictating to me how I should act when the national anthem is being played?

President Obama praised Colin Kaepernick last year for his activism. The cynical politics of the situation and Trump's escalation of the issue is clear for all to see.

Again, for me at least it is not the players protesting that I object to, it is the Packers organization taking a stand that the "best" way to observe the national anthem is to lock arms in order to display what the organization insists is "unity."

How freaking presumptuous of the Packers.

And I for one will not be coerced into giving up my right to put my hand over my heart or face criticism for not acting in a "unifying" way.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#15

However, I am disappointed that the Packers have now taken upon themselves to decide how fans should conduct themselves during the playing of the anthem tomorrow. If the team wants to link arms that is their prerogative. Telling fans how the should react is entirely inappropriate in my view.

Originally Posted by: RichMcGeorge

Good news, your disappointment is self-manifested! The Green Bay Packers are not telling anyone what to do. Rather, the Players are ASKING fans to unite. At least, that's what I've found. Link me to something that's more accurate if I am the one misunderstanding please.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

I haven't been able to find where Trump said the Owners should fire those sitting or kneeling during the anthem. All I've found that's close is this quote.

Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say ‘get that son of a bitch off the field?’

Donald Trump wrote:

I'm not saying he didn't say they should, just saying all I'm finding is a lot of hyperbolic inferring headlines with no actual quote. Can you link me to a quote/tweet where it has his words?

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#16

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile#Incident

Except when you do comply with officer commands, do as is legally required during a traffic stop and inform the officer that you have a legally-obtained, licensed weapon, and they shoot you anyways. When you originally got pulled over not because you were doing anything wrong, but because in the words of an officer, "The two occupants just look like people that were involven in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just because of the wide-set nose". So basically, happen to have the wrong facial features and you might get pulled over and shot even when you're doing everything you're asked to and legally required to do.

Originally Posted by: Porforis

I lived a couple blocks from there for about 10 years. The cops hassled me a bit when I first moved there, but I was never pulled over 52 times in one year, like Philandro. Then again, I may or may not resemble people who commit crimes over there.

My room mate for awhile, got hassled alot tho. White dude, was a trouble maker. Unseemly type of person.

I'd walk at night, around 10pm for exercise, they'd stop and ask me for ID on the sidewalk. That was in the later years of my living there. Seemed like there was some crime ring going on, something that they wanted to get on top of. Moved away a couple years ago, I assume it's similar now to how it was.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#17

I haven't been able to find where Trump said the Owners should fire those sitting or kneeling during the anthem. All I've found that's close is this quote.

I'm not saying he didn't say they should, just saying all I'm finding is a lot of hyperbolic inferring headlines with no actual quote. Can you link me to a quote/tweet where it has his words?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Youre not using the complete quote... Trumps words were

"Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say ‘get that son of a bitch off the field, right now, out, he's fired...................... HE'S FIRED!"

Anyways on a complete and total side note (that probably has nothing to do with nothing)... I was very surprised to see that Jared Kushner (Trump's son-in-law) has a residential address only 0.4 miles from NFL Headquarters.

Of course that's probably a lot more common in New York City than what I'm used too, because I haven't lived in such a huge city.

But NFL is 345 Park Ave, New York, NY 10154
Kushner is 502 Park Ave, New York, NY 10022

Of course that's Kushner's second residential address and not his main one, but I still found it randomly interesting.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: beast

And? I'm still not seeing where he says the Owners should fire anyone. I wouldn't be surprised if he did say it. All I saw was rhetoric playing to a crowd asking "wouldn't you love ...". I've read headlines that's claim "trump DEMANDS owners FIRE players" ... it just goes on an on an on.

I truly wish people could be jailed for lying like this. It does nothing but fuel an already passionate and emotionally charged agenda.

The guy says enough stupid crap on his own and yet some idiots feel they need to make things up? I'm not saying anyone here is an idiot, I'm singling out the fucktard media with that comment.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#19

This is all a diversion. Media's eating it up per usual. Take anthem out of games and just get it over with.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#20

And? I'm still not seeing where he says the Owners should fire anyone.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Zero, you're very smart... I know someone doesn't have to word for word spell something out for you to see it.

So if you're watched the video and can't see that he's implying it, then it's because you don't want to see it.

In the video, Trump is implying that the NFL has a problem with people turning off their TVs after seeing people kneeling, and that sending one player out (firing) just one player for doing it, would send a message to rest of them and get them to stop kneeing and thus fix the problem.

In that video Trump is CLEARLY suggesting Owners should do something about their players kneeling problem. He's CLEARLY saying that firing a kneeling player would fix the kneeling problem and make an owner the most popular person for a week.

If you state a problem and only stating a single solution that you like to see... then you are promoting and suggesting that solution (at that time)

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