Zero2Cool
6 years ago

So we will have a younger version of TT. Why couldn't we get someone that thinks outside the lines. Oh well we will get to see how his drafting is because we will be getting alot of high picks in the near future i feel. I still say trade Aaron Rodgers to cleveland for their 2 #1s in the draft and then sign someone like Alex Smith to groom a new qb for a couple years. We wont be in a super bowl in the next few years so lets build a nice solid team

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Why can't we let the man run at least one off-season before we get all bent out of shape? Let's do that. Let's let the man do his job and then we can begin to formulate gripes. Right now, being overly excited or upset is just wasted emotions.


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Smokey
6 years ago
Who from the Green Bay Packers came forward and made an official announcement on a new GB GM ? When was that media announcement made ?

Nothing is "official" until it is official !!!

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nerdmann
6 years ago

Why can't we let the man run at least one off-season before we get all bent out of shape? Let's do that. Let's let the man do his job and then we can begin to formulate gripes. Right now, being overly excited or upset is just wasted emotions.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Word is,this ultra conservativatism is a function of Ted’s personality. None of the guys from his GM tree seem to be that way. No reason to think Gutekunst is either.

Unless his job is to keep the franchise financially viable first, win SBs second.
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beast
6 years ago

I hope Gutekunst leans on Mike McCarthy to look outside the organization for a DC.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 

This is an assumption on my part, but I don't think anyone needs to lean on McCarthy for that, I think he's going to do it on his own... he's just waiting for permission to interview people... unless the Bears resign him, Fangio can interview starting Tuesday. If the Bears don't hire Fangio as their head coach (and it's said they're mainly looking for an offensive head coach for their young QB), then I think (just personal opinion that) Fangio might be the leading candidate.

Teryl Austin will only be interviewed after he gets released (if he gets released), but first the Lions have to figure out who their head coach will be. Also he could be going to Bengals.

So we will have a younger version of TT. Why couldn't we get someone that thinks outside the lines.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Why do you assume he's the same as TT? Pretty much none of the Wolf tree guys have been like Ted Thompson at all. What are you even basing that opinion on?

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

I agree, how is Gutekunst like a version of TT? It's said Gutekunst nailed both his GB and 49ers interviews... has Thompson ever nailed an interview? And do we know anything else really about Gutekunst?

I still say trade Aaron Rodgers to cleveland for their 2 #1s in the draft and then sign someone like Alex Smith to groom a new qb for a couple years. We wont be in a super bowl in the next few years so lets build a nice solid team

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


This year's draft seems like it could be missing the elite top talent of normal years. So might be less value in this draft. Of course, if we could get it and then trade the pick around for future 1st round picks would be (totally unrealistic but) totally awesome!

Built the team first and add the QB last seems to work great for some teams (including the Vikings), as it keeps you picking low until you get the QB... then playoffs and high selections time.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Packers hit 'home run' with Brian Gutekunst as GM, but questions linger 
4:28 PM ET
Rob Demovsky
ESPN Staff Writer

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Here’s how one highly placed source at Lambeau Field handicapped the Green Bay Packers' general manager race: “John Schneider would be a grand slam, but Brian Gutekunst would be a home run.”

Short of luring Schneider out of Seattle, the hiring of Gutekunst, the team's director of player personnel since 2016, might have been the best-case scenario to both keep continuity and rebuild the Packers after a drop-off in the talent level that was exposed this season when Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone.

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Promoting Brian Gutekunst to GM should give Packers coach Mike McCarthy a partner in both roster-building and answering front-facing questions about personnel decisions.

The Packers are expected to introduce the 44-year-old Gutekunst as their new GM on Monday. The Packers announced Tuesday that Ted Thompson would no longer be in charge of the team's personnel department but would remain senior adviser to football operations.

Among internal candidates, Gutekunst offered the best combination of scouting experience -- both on the pro and college side -- and people skills. This should offer coach Mike McCarthy the kind of pairing he’s looking for: a partner in roster building and the front-facing parts of the job.

Rob Demovsky wrote:



A home run, eh? I wonder who the grand slam would have been?

It sounds like the Packers organization was looking for a frontman who could actually speak with the media. In other words, someone whose personality was the antithesis of Ted "Cadaverous" Thompson's. That makes sense to me from a public relations and business standpoint. How it will translate to success on the field remains to be seen.
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wpr
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6 years ago

I stand corrected on the Whaley issue.

Now the question tickling my brain is this: With the Packers having promoted from within, can we safely assume that Mike McCarthy's job is safe for now? Or is there still a chance that the new sheriff in town might want a deputy of his own in the saddle?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I would think Mikey is safe for 1 year at least. Even Sherman got a year to prove himself to his new GM and since he had been the GM they had an awkward year.
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6 years ago
From the candidates inside 1265 I had hoped for Gutekunst even though I don't know enough about him to really have a solid opinion. He seems to have a good blend of experience and is knowledgeable in player evaluations.

Wolf is very knowledgeable but a little too young. He reminds me of Jag's Jeff Carson in draft Day. He has some ability but needs a few more years seasoning.

According to some experts Ball was the choice. I was sure Murphy with his MBA would go the money route and take him based solely on the dollars end of the operation.

No one outside of the inner circle seemed very likely to me.
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beast
6 years ago

I would think Mikey is safe for 1 year at least. Even Sherman got a year to prove himself to his new GM and since he had been the GM they had an awkward year.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



A rumor at one point suggested Sherman avoided talking to Thompson as much as possible also, and that Sherman and Favre were upset with the selection of Rodgers instead of someone who could help that season. Hopefully we won't have that between Mike McCarthy and BG. (of course it was BG! It's just GB backwards!, how did we miss that sign? 🤣)

The Man in the Middle! (they really should of got some labtop skins )
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Bigbyfan
6 years ago
The guy hasn't been the GM for a day and we're already declaring it a failure.... sounds about right here.
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