With the 14th pick ...· Page 12

Nonstopdrivel
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6 years ago

As we all know, the Packers have now taken a defensive player as their top pick seven consecutive times, dating back to 2012. Of those seven players, three are still on the Green Bay roster: safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (2014; first round), defensive tackle Kenny Clark (2016; first round), and cornerback Kevin King (2017; second round). In fact, since Aaron Rodgers was drafted at No. 24 in 2005, the Packers have only taken an offensive player in the first round twice, springing for offensive tackles both times: Bryan Bulaga (2010) and Derek Sherrod (2011). (Yes, wide receiver Jordy Nelson was their top pick in 2008, but he was taken in the second round.)

A glance at the current Packers roster reveals something interesting: Green Bay is going into the 2018 season with only two first-round picks on the offensive side of the ball: Rodgers and Bulaga, both of whom missed significant playing time last year.

I'm curious how how that ratio compares to other teams in the league, but on its face, it sure strikes me as a case of serious underrepresentation -- especially when you consider the fact that in 2017, Rodgers only started in seven games and Bulaga in five, meaning that for the majority of the season, the Packers played without any first-round picks on offense at all!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#112

As we all know, the Packers have now taken a defensive player as their top pick seven consecutive times, dating back to 2012. Of those seven players, three are still on the Green Bay roster: safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (2014; first round), defensive tackle Kenny Clark (2016; first round), and cornerback Kevin King (2017; second round).

A glance at the current Packers roster reveals something interesting: Green Bay is going into the 2018 season with only two first-round picks on the offensive side of the ball: quarterback Aaron Rodgers (2005), of course, and right tackle Bryan Bulaga (2010).

I'm curious how how that ratio compares to other teams in the league, but on its face, that strikes me as being some serious underrepresentation -- especially when you consider the fact that in 2017, Rodgers only started in seven games and Bulaga in five, meaning that for the majority of the season, the Packers were playing without any first-round picks on offense at all!

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

I've always kept this in mind. Ted Thompson said you can add free agents to shore up your defense, but offense you have to draft and develop them. I wonder if he was playing poker at the time he said it.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#113

DoddPower
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#114

Measured against most pre-draft evaluations of talent (Mayhock rated top corner in the draft), a very nice first day for the new GM.
But as other have posted, you cant make everyone happy.

Originally Posted by: KRK

Why are so many people saying Jaire Alexander was Mike Mayock's top rated corner? Denzel Ward is clearly his #1, and Alexander was #2. He was the top rated corner on Mayock's board when the Packers drafted (as he mentioned), but not #1 overall. At least as of April 20th from the link below.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000927595/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

#115

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Because many people are looking at Mike Mayock's last published rankings which was his top 100 prospects board, which was published on April 24 and has Alexander ahead of Ward.

1. Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
3. Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
4. Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
5. Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
6. Derwin James, S, Florida State
7. Sam Darnold, QB, USC
8. Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
9. Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
10. Vita Vea, DT, Washington

11. Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
12. Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
13. Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
14. Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
15. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
16. Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
17. James Daniels, C, Iowa
18. Harold Landry, DE, Boston College
19. Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
20. Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State

Mike Mayock wrote:

KRK
Veteran Member

6 years ago

#116

if we assume that this is the guy they wanted to get at 14, then they had a hell of a first day, irrespective of what draft analysts said.

Further, I am Extremely glad they drafted for need. A 7-9 teams with a great quarterback should only draft best player available if that player fills a need, Along with the new Defensive coaching staff and reloaded cornerback position we should be able to compete with anybody.

Hopefully, we will continue drafting for need by supplementing our edge rush, wide receiver, and offensive line personnel.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#117

GB's new GM had me in despair when he traded the 14th pick for the 27th pick. I was not alone in that either. BG then redeemed himself to trade back up for the 18th pick.

With the 18th pick, the Packers choose the CB J. Alexander. While not my best choice, the experts say that the short fellow can play. It is a whole different game in the Pros than defending College receivers. A 5'10" player vs a 6'3" veteran WR is an obvious mis-match.

Alexander will have his chance to fail or succeed, let the chips fall where they may. [glare]

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#118

You got yourself a first-round CB, Smokey. That's what you wanted, right? 😝

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#119

Why not lock your 6'2" CB on the 6'3" WR? Are we claiming Kevin King is garbage already?

There are probably more tall WR in college than in the pro's. Often times the bigger guys don't pan out too well in the pro's.

I'm not at all worried about the height. I watched the highlights (highlights of course show only the good), but the guy just looks comfortable on the field, like he belongs. Most said we needed a CB, we got a CB and one that most draft experts said was the best CB or 2nd best CB in the draft. PLUS, PLUS, we freaking got another 1st round pick next year.

How the hell can anyone be anything other than optimistic here?

Oh, for those claiming this is another Terrell Buckley, keep in mind, that dude got like 50 INT's in his career (35th ALL-TIME), so another T-Buck wouldn't be all that bad.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#120

You got yourself a first-round CB, Smokey. That's what you wanted, right? 😝

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Maybe, maybe not. The issue I have with all this over dramatic crap is if you're relying on THIS draft to put you over the edge, you have ALREADY LOST. The draft is for the future seasons, not always the immediate season. You want to get starter out of your (default 7) picks, but to expect to re-make your entire roster and fill a plethora of holes via draft is unrealistic.

Maybe I'm still sour on ESPN tricking me into thinking the Packers really fucked up by not drafting Chad Jackson and instead taking the "slow" and "undersized" Greg Jennings. I haven't been able to get juiced up over draft picks ever since that crap. Basically, none of us know shit!! Let's get these kids in uniform and see what's up when the cleats meet the grass!!

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