beast
4 years ago
I find it interesting, that when fans start talking about benching a starting CB, they go straight for the 3rd/4th string asking why don't we try Brown, Jackson, Hollman, etc skipping right over the 2nd string of Tramon Williams and Chandon Sullivan.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I find it interesting, that when fans start talking about benching a starting CB, they go straight for the 3rd/4th string asking why don't we try Brown, Jackson, Hollman, etc skipping right over the 2nd string of Tramon Williams and Chandon Sullivan.

Originally Posted by: beast 



What is the CB depth order? I thought Kevin King was CB2 and Tramon was slot/nickel CB. Which left me to think Hollman or Brown is CB3. I really don't know though. I'm just thinking if the guy isn't getting it down, put someone else in.

Coaches see these guys in practice and I can only be left to believe the other guys are worse.
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4 years ago
Z2C zaid:

Coaches see these guys in practice and I can only be left to believe the other guys are worse.

[list=1][*]Sometimes, there are great practice players and drill players who don't get it done in games. [*]Conversely, there are 'gamers', and from what I had recall seeing when he played, Brown was a gamer. [*]IIRC most of King's 'good' plays are in the red zone when he cant be beaten deep and his height become bigger asset.[*]Guys get in the doghouse, and I bet Brown resides there, for items other than play[/list]
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Cheesey
4 years ago
Well, they need to try SOMETHING else. Obviously the guys on the field aren’t getting the job done.
If a guy is in the doghouse, take him out of it and give him a shot.
That’s the only way you will know if what you have is any good.

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beast
4 years ago

  • Guys get in the doghouse, and I bet Brown resides there, for items other than play[/list]

    Originally Posted by: KRK 


  • And Brown has amazingly great speed and is very willing to hit, which excites the heck out I fans, but the guy also struggles a hell of a lot in coverage, which is while despite being a physical extremely athletic cornerback, he didn't get drafted...

    Brown is extremely athletic, but like Jarrett Bush, he never comes close to putting it all together... so if he is in the dog house, then it's not just that holding him back.

    I still can help but wonder if Brown might make a good deep FS, he's not disciplined, but he's at his best in zone coming forward, which a deep Safety role would give him. If he could mentally handle it, of course we got Savage there too, and need CBs more than Safeties.
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    Zero2Cool
    4 years ago

    And Brown has amazingly great speed and is very willing to hit, which excites the heck out I fans, but the guy also struggles a hell of a lot in coverage, which is while despite being a physical extremely athletic cornerback, he didn't get drafted...

    Brown is extremely athletic, but like Jarrett Bush, he never comes close to putting it all together... so if he is in the dog house, then it's not just that holding him back.

    I still can help but wonder if Brown might make a good deep FS, he's not disciplined, but he's at his best in zone coming forward, which a deep Safety role would give him. If he could mentally handle it, of course we got Savage there too, and need CBs more than Safeties.

    Originally Posted by: beast 



    Tony Brown is not in the dog house based on anything I've read. He's made the most of his opportunities, but also made some big mental mistakes (stupid penalties). What I've read and remember about Brown is he has all the physical tools and lacks the mental game and has an attitude. The latter of which is why he didn't get drafted. If a coaching staff could figure out how to give him a role that doesn't require thinking I bet he'd excel. How the hell do you do that though? lol
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    Z2C queried:

    If a coaching staff could figure out how to give him a role that doesn't require thinking I bet he'd excel.

    Perhaps a role like a Deion Sanders’ i e “get in that guys jock and take him away”.

    Perhaps you try that on the other teams #2 receiver, you might find you have a player.
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    gbguy20
    4 years ago
    i don't like the idea of getting into another guy's jock. what in the world
    Cheesey
    4 years ago

    i don't like the idea of getting into another guy's jock. what in the world

    Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



    Well....you ARE an “athletic supporter”, aren’t you???😂
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    4 years ago
    Then again I am not surprised Deion is openly discussing how he likes to get into their jocks
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