Beast's too early 2022 53 Mock Roster· Page 4

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If you think of Lazard as more of a TE, keeping 6 makes more sense.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Lazard definitely is a true wideout. I think beast and I disagree on a lot, but will agree on that.

I'm glad you brought up TE though nerdmann. It would be very easy for beast to keep 7 WRs on his personal final 53. He could just drop Dafney as the 5th TE, and keep just 4 TEs. This allows for 7 WRs, which is what will be most probable for the Packers if Toure makes the impression I think he will over the next 3+ months.

beast
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2 years ago

#32

Lazard definitely is a true wideout. I think beast and I disagree on a lot, but will agree on that.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I don't prefer the "true" part, as Lazard is sorta his own breed of blocking WR, but yes he's a WR.

Before Lazard's draft, I wanted to draft him in the 6th or later and convert him to a TE, as I directly compared him to Tonyan.

Since Lazard joined the Packers lots of fans have suggested this idea and we keep getting the blunt answer of "No" from Packers insider's without much detail.

Until fairly recently (last year or two), Vic formerly of Ask Vic from Packers.com but no longer working for them, seemed to open up a bit more on the topic and indirectly seemed to suggest Lazard doesn't have the body width to put on additional weight and keep his athleticism and after that some fans point have posted pics and comments about Lazard hip width which does seems rather small even for a large WR.

And the hips are mostly bone, so it's not something one can grow more... and weight quickly adds there, so his athleticism probably would be hurt more proportionally with additional weight then a guy with larger hips.

That being said, Lazard can be used SHORT term in a number of blocking ways, including TE where he was used to help chip block Bosa in the regular season win over the 49ers, and one TD play, Lazard was the TE blocking Bosa, where I think it's fair to say Bosa won that battle but Lazard created enough of a distraction that the RB was able to sneak by Bosa for a TD, so Lazard won the War.

I'm glad you brought up TE though nerdmann. It would be very easy for beast to keep 7 WRs on his personal final 53. He could just drop Dafney as the 5th TE, and keep just 4 TEs.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Yup, as I believe I stated, Dafney and the ILBer would be the next ones to look at to go, based on my latest changes of adding a true 4th Safety and moving Carpenter to ILB.

I probably should include adding if it's an OL like say C Hanson, then I'd also include OT/OG Van Lanen and Walker as possible losing a spot.

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#33

Originally Posted by: beast

Lazard is a high quality blocking WR, but indeed a true wideout.

On the 53: Did you happen to catch Bill Huber from SI.com article with his final 53 projection for the Packers? It's in today's headlines section here.

Bill basically said "fk it, he played safety at rookie camp, he a S to me now. I don't care what LaFleur says."😌 He didn't even mention Carpenter with the ILBs. Has him on the final 53 at S.

I disagree with some of Bill's 53, but he does have Gute keeping 7 WRs, so I obviously am with him on that.😏

wpr
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2 years ago

#34

No one here is a NFL coach or General Manager and decides what moves players up or down the depth chart. I use the WR numbers just as a starting point pecking order in the room. It's obviously going to be very fluid.

The Packers situation at WR is about now and the future. If Toure(WR7) is going to make the roster, he is going to have to show the potential of being a high quality WR in GB for years to come. They want to see if he can play. Want to see if he has a future with the Packers at the position.

Romeo, who is WR5 right now is already a lock for the roster. He could be WR2 or 3 by later this summer.

Playing some on teams are possibilities for both players, but won't factor in them making the roster or not.

With a cat like Carpenter, special teams is why he is even in Green Bay. That isn't the case with Toure.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I am not arguing about being a coach or GM or front office person. I was merely trying to add to your discussion point. Speaking in general about the WR rankings for every single team. A player who is WR5 is typically about the same in ability as a WR7. (There's a reason they are not one of the top 2 or 3 on any given team. They have weaknesses in their game somewhere.)
Often times the WR5 is better on ST than WR7 (or 8 or 9 who will be released and end up on someone's PS.) which is why he's higher on the depth chart.

beast
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2 years ago

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On the 53: Did you happen to catch Bill Huber from SI.com article with his final 53 projection for the Packers? It's in today's headlines section here.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Nope, why didn't you post it? Just one button away.

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