beast
10 days ago

What is the absolute best way to learn a subject absent living it.

Teach it.

More accurately, go through the process of preparing to teach it.

An aversion to mocks is very understandable from the perspective of the consumer.

As a producer, at least privately, I have found that the most valuable part of the exercise is getting a better appreciation of a cost benefit analysis as regards trade up, trade down, etc.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Agreed, Mocks can have a lot of value, though one or two issues with people doing them too much...

In the real thing, you only get one chance per year, I know I have certainly restarted mocks when not happy with the results, they don't get to do that.

And two, with Mocks you generally get to see the big board, while with teams, it's clear that some teams have extremely different big boards from each other.



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beast
10 days ago

Dane Brugler just released his 7 round mock draft and has Packers taking...

Round 1, Pick 25: Jackson Powers-Johnson, OG/C, Oregon
Round 2, Pick 41: Darius Robinson, edge, Missouri
Round 2, Pick 58: Edgerrin Cooper, ILB, Texas A&M
Round 3, Pick 88: Calen Bullock, S, USC
Round 3, Pick 91: Caedan Wallace, OT, Penn State
Round 4, Pick 126: Ray Davis, RB, Kentucky
Round 5, Pick 169: Elijah Jones, CB, Boston College
Round 6, Pick 202: Ty’Ron Hopper, LB, Missouri
Round 6, Pick 219: Ryan Watts, CB/S, Texas
Round 7, Pick 245: Tulu Griffin, WR, Mississippi State
Round 7, Pick 255: Nick Gargiulo, OT/C, South Carolina

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That is certainly not the standard Gute draft... but interesting

IOL Powers/DL Robinson certainly add power and help the run games for their side of the ball.

I got mixed feelings about Cooper, in some ways he's a one trick pony (stay back and then trigger when he thinks the ball is coming out) but he's also damn good at that one trick. That being said, I don't think he fits the defensive scheme we're going to be running (Cover 3 is my assumption) but they have not actually said what scheme we'll be running.

It'll be interesting to see which team picks FS Bullock, I'm kind of doubtful it'll be the Packers, but Bullocks could get an A for deep coverage but an F for the whole tackling, being physical, attacking blockers and ball carrier aspect of the game. So you only want Bullock as a deep FS.


OT Wallace is all over the map as far as grades, some have him in the 7th, I think this is the highest I've seen him go. Wallace a 3 year starter at RT has GREAT technique, but a bit more limited in terms of talent, I wonder if they would be drafting him to put him at RG.


Ray Davis is shorter, but heavier than Aaron Jones, he'll never have that deep speed, but he has some very nice quickness and has been used in a wide zone scheme as Kentucky has been running the Rams offensive system, of course his offensive coordinator is now the offensive coordinator on the Buccaneers now. Davis quickness and versatility are his calling cards, with nice weight for more power than you'd expect in a 5'8" guy.

CB Jones, played for the Packers new defensive coordinator at Boston College. Some reports have basically said Jones is a Cover 3 guy, and ONLY a cover 3 guy. Not saying Jones will ever develop to be half or a quarter as good, but his physical limitations are similar to that of Richard Sherman, whom used his brain and the perfect scheme for him (Cover 3) to make it happen.

The rest I'm not as familiar with
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