Pack93z
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15 years ago
Kind of disspells the notion that Hawk was hurt this season.. his own words.. won't expand on my viewpoint here.. call it a new years resolution. ;)

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090113/PKR01/90112107/1058 

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Pete...Any reason to believe AJ Hawk was still hurting with that groin towards the end of the season? He looked slow, too slow to cover a running back.
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Pete Dougherty:
I asked him several times in the last three weeks of the season, and he insists it wasn't a problem the second half of the year. He did look slower, no doubt. I know some people with the Packers think it was a problem and he just wouldn't say, not even to the team. Something was up, because it makes no sense that his play would slip like that in his third season.


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bozz_2006
15 years ago
I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.
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IronMan
15 years ago

I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.

"bozz_2006" wrote:


Agreed.
porky88
15 years ago
He did say something was up though so I don't think this really proves anything.

Regardless of injured or not, A.J. Hawk has been a disappointment and there isn't any denying it. Now it comes down to getting it fix. He's way to talented to be a bust, but another poor year and that's where the Packers are at.
Pack93z
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15 years ago
AJ insisting that the groin wasn't bothering him is enough for me.. a players own words speak volumes in terms of their health, IMO.

Hawk regressed this season.. actually has been regressing since about mid way last season.. we need to get it turned around quickly.. he is a major portion of what can aid the regeneration of the Packers defense..

Hopefully the Packers coach this talented group up this coming season.. adding a little attitude might help this group.. say a hyper rookie linebacker to to fix with a Wayne Simmons mean streak.. 😉
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.
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IronMan
15 years ago

I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.

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Good point. +1
15 years ago
Hawk was always a workout fiend. I wonder if Rock's program changed his routine and detracted from his production on the field. I hate to blame Rock because I liked the guy, but we've heard some complaints already and considering how our LB play dropped...
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
to add to what packfanwithtwins has said, there's always more to an injury than just the injury. there's the physical part of it, which heals, and then there's the mental aspect, which sometimes lingers for a looooooong time. AJ was really really really slow this year. slower than in the past. could be that the physical part of the injury healed but he's hesitant to put the pedal to the metal. Not like he's afraid, but almost like his psyche won't let him go all the way (like a "govern" on a car that won't allow it go above a certain MPH). being a person who has suffered more sports injuries than i'd like to admit, i know there is a certain mental aspect to sports injuries.
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DarkaneRules
15 years ago
It really could come down to not being in shape. I don't know whose job is it but I would say the LB core on the whole this year seemed out of shape.
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